Re: CINDY - PAIN UNDER RIGHT RIB
From: Claire (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat Jun 17 01:07:01 2006
Hi, newbie here...
I get this also! I have managed to pinpoint it down to the days leading
up to ovulation when I have a surge in oestrogen. My acupuncturist
however thinks it has to do with a weakness of my liver?
--
Claire
At Sat, 17 Jun 2006, char wrote:
>
>Wow! Interesting connection. I also have endometriosis and during my
>pregnancy I had horrible right rib pain. Got the gallbladder checked
>and everything. Docs couldn't figure out what was wrong. It was also
>tender and would hurt if I even touched the skin. Does anyone else have
>this problem?
>Thanks char
>At Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Emily wrote:
>>
>>I believe that the pain is from endo. I have the same pain under my
>>right rib and have also had my gallbladder checked etc. The Dr. does
>>not know what exactly is causing this but does believe that it has to do
>>with endo. If your Dr. thinks that the pain is in your head or that
>>you need to see a therapist or something then I would consider looking
>>for a new Dr. because he obviously has no idea of the pain that can be
>>involved with endo!!!
>>~emily
>>
>>Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Penny wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear Cindy, Ruthie and Jennifer: I am so glad I found your chat page. I
>>>have been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for months. May
>>>2004 I started having pain under my right rib. Dr. sent me to the
>>>emergency room, thinking it was gallstones. I had a catscan and
>>>ultrasound. I have a kidney stone, but they don't believe that is
>>>causing the pain. They simply can't figure it out. The pain comes and
>>>goes but intermittently gets really bad. I also have endometriosis.
>>>NEVER would have linked the two together. Another thing that is strange
>>>is that 2 years ago I started having migraine headaches and dizziness. I
>>>had never had a migraine in my life. I had MRIs and all kinds of
>>>testing and they could never find any thing wrong. Maybe it is all
>>>hormonal. I am 38 years old. Was never able to conceive due to the
>>>location of the endometriosis and lack of ovulation. If you have any
>>>advice on how I should proceed please let me know. Right now I am
>>>taking Motrin and Hydrocodone for pain. They keep telling me they
>>>believe it is inflammation in the muscle under my rib (I'm not buying
>>>it)and to be patient. One doctor even wanted me to take a pain
>>>management class. I think they believe I am nuts! I now have two
>>>illnesses they can't cure! Penny
>>>
>>>At Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Jennifer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Dear Cindy and Ruthie- I have the same pain under my right rib- had all the
>>>>same tests- exactly the same tests! I can't believe there are others with
>>>>the same problem??!! But I am so excited (kinda sick huh) somebody else had
>>>>or has what I had. My pain is now intermittant- never shows up on any
>>>>diagnostic tests. Dr Redwine thought I might have had endo on my diaghram-
>>>>he did a chart review for me. I had a Hyst on Oct 18, 2000. The pain came
>>>>back about one month after surgery and the Dr said it was all in my head!
>>>>Yippeee, it's not in my head. There are others, sorry about your pain
>>>>though, but it is nice to know that I am not the only one. I think it is
>>>>definately endo. Hope you feel better, I have never found anything to help
>>>>that pain either. I'm with you on this, if I hear or find anything to help I
>>>>will write ou back.
>>>>Wow- validation Thank you both for being here
>>>>Jenn
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Ruthie" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:21 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: CINDY - PAIN UNDER RIGHT RIB
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Cindy,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was scanning through all the messages posted on this chat site, and
>>>>> when I saw your message about pain under the right rib I was surprised
>>>>> because that is exactly what I have been having too! I also have a
>>>>> diagnosis of Endometriosis, my mother and sisters have it too. I am 44
>>>>> now and after enduring the most wretched periods since I was 11 years
>>>>> old, I had a laparoscopic assisted vaginal hysterectomy. This was just
>>>>> two weeks ago. My doctor left the ovaries intact because he found no
>>>>> endo lesions on them and because he felt that 99% of my pain was coming
>>>>> from the endo invaded uterus. When endometriosis invades into the
>>>>> muscular walls of the uterus, it is called "Adenomyosis" and it causes
>>>>> you to have the most excruciating cramps and your periods are heavy and
>>>>> liver like tissue and sometimes red sand like grains of blood and tissue
>>>>> come out too. It's really gross and totally interferes with your life!
>>>>> Up to a week or more out of every month is a waste unless you take some
>>>>> very powerful painkillers. My pain and the horrible backache would be
>>>>> so severe that I would be rocking in the fetal position before I
>>>>> discovered the prescription painkiller called Ultram. This stuff worked
>>>>> better than anything I had ever taken before to control the pain.
>>>>> Getting back to the right rib pain, I first had that happen suddenly on
>>>>> the first day of my period March 31rst of this year. It came on and
>>>>> felt like a knife was lodged directly under my bottom right rib, and it
>>>>> was severe and burning. So bad that I couldn't take any deep breaths or
>>>>> barely move. The only position I could try to sleep in was flat on my
>>>>> back. I even took Ultram and that dampened it a bit, tried heating
>>>>> pads, massage made it worse. I went into my regular doctor and she
>>>>> thought it was a gallbladder stone or inflammation at first, so I went
>>>>> in to the hospital for a barium swallow and CAT scan. They didn't find
>>>>> anything, regular x-rays don't show gall stones if they don't have
>>>>> calcium in them. The majority of gallstones are made out of
>>>>> cholesterol. My pain subsided gradually after about 6 days of agony. I
>>>>> was walking around hunched over like I was 90 years old! After the
>>>>> ultrasound and CAT SCAN revealed nothing, I just was glad that the pain
>>>>> finally went away. They didn't know what was causing this. Then my
>>>>> doctor said to me that she saw a case just like mine once before in med
>>>>> school, the lady had also had a history of endometriosis! She was
>>>>> suspicious that it had to do with this. She said for me to keep track
>>>>> of when this pain happened, and to see if it coincided with my periods!
>>>>> Remember the first attack came exactly on my period. Well, I had the
>>>>> hysterectomy which was an easy, fast and not painful operation which
>>>>> only took 1 hour for my OBGYN to do. He knew about my right side pain
>>>>> and he said that he was going to look for lesions in that area. After
>>>>> the surgery he said that he couldn't find anything there and that it
>>>>> might have just been what's called "Referred pain" from the uterus. We
>>>>> both thought that it was going to be over after the uterus was removed.
>>>>> I was enjoying feeling better than ever for two weeks, and then suddenly
>>>>> two days ago, WHAMMMO! It happened again!!!! I was in shock, and then I
>>>>> looked on my calendar and counted the days since my last and final
>>>>> period. Exactly to the day, my period was to have started! So if this
>>>>> sounds like something that you are having as well, it has got to be
>>>>> linked to our hormones. You didn't have a hysterectomy yet, correct? So
>>>>> if you are still producing hormones and you see a consistent pattern
>>>>> like this it could very well be a hidden endo lesion tucked under the
>>>>> liver or near the gall bladder or embedded into the wall of the
>>>>> diaphragm. Each month when the level of hormone (I can't remember which
>>>>> one is highest at this time, I think it's estrogen) kicks in on day one
>>>>> of the period, this hidden blob of endo gets activated and produces pain
>>>>> by making prostaglandins or whatever mechanism the pain from endo is
>>>>> caused. I'm curios to see what you think, whether you have this pattern
>>>>> and post to others to see what we can dig up! You can email me anytime!
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ruthie
>>>>>
>>--
>>Emily
>>
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