Re: Depression Meds?
From: Sami (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri Mar 31 02:57:23 2006
All I would like to share on this topic is that Depression is a REAL
DISEASE like ENDO, & if you are feeling Depressed PLEASE see a
Psychiatrist for assessment. They study for between 7-10 YEARS to
specialise in this field.
I have been on anti-dep for a few years & after suffering/struggeling
with Clinical Depression for 10 years with no help, I am MUCH BETTER.
I take Prozac, & have been seeing a Psychiatrist for bi-weekly sessions
who is very valued. It is so individual, don't accept a General Medical
Practitioner Opinion when it comes to your mind,
sami koala
At Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Sudsey wrote:
>
>Loretta
>Bless your heart for all you have been through I cried through your
>post. I am 100% behind you on not letting the wrong doc prescribe out
>of feild meds/diagnose. I was on Zoloft a few days and I couldn't hack
>how it made me feel like a flipping zombie and ditched them. I firmly
>believed it was hormone related not brain chemistry related. I remember
>my ranting as I told everyone who had an opinion around me that
>depression meds wont change life situations that had been my focus at
>times of my depression modes. I was fighting to get a hormone imbalance
>recognized which many ladies with endo will suffer. It's not got a
>whole bunch to do with seritonin in the brain which most anti
>depressants target so it's not going to tap into a hormone imbalance one
>bit that's caused by estrogen dominance.
>We wish we could turn back time to that place most of our parents grew
>up in where you got sick you could trust your doc had your best interest
>at heart. Now a days I almost have that dime a dozen lets rush the
>visits on to the next paying patient and how many can we get in the
>office within a day feeling. It's very sad our doctors do not know who
>we even are half the time. Lets take a quick look in our charts.
>There's no more the small town doc hollywoods around who knew you your
>family and had a better sense of who you were on that more personal
>level.Commercialized health care has replaced the basics of it. If our
>Doctors knew us better they would know that we weren't seriously
>depressed like this prior to endo and it's often relentless havoic on
>our bodies. Our word of mouth falls upon a def ear. Let's skip what
>the patients are saying and head right for the whole lets shut them up
>and dope them up quick fix. We take to treating conditions that many do
>not even have in a trial and error type fashion or worse rely on the
>less then accurate testing to tell the story, and it can only tell half
>if even that of what's going on. Now patients have had to take charge
>of their health care and educate themselves to protect themselves from
>these methods of medical care and that's sickening. I wish in the whole
>of me to have the ability to trust doctors but once it is gone it's
>gone. Now a days you must request your medical records because too
>often they fail to inform the patients and downplay things or just
>neglect to mention all together which I hate. It doesn't end there
>either because we need to check out medications and learn the risks of
>them on our own because we aren't going to be fully informed. Medication
>meant to help us can and does harm some of us.
>There aren't people we know too often who will inform of this self
>advocate part we as a patient must now play. Our parents still trust
>the doctors and are more prone to think well he's a good doc he's got my
>best interest at heart so we think what changed?
>Loretta my heart goes out to you and it's so important that you shared
>your story. We never know in the moments we sit in those painful
>memories typing them out how much it might help another and how it can
>spare others from traveling that path.
>All my best
>Sudsey
>At Sat, 4 Mar 2006, Loretta wrote:
>>
>>At Sat, 4 Mar 2006, JoCee27 wrote:
>>>
>>>My doctor suggested that I try taking something for depression along
>>>with the pain meds because some women experience a low feeling when they
>>>take pain meds for a long period of time. She prescribed Zoloft for me;
>>>which I hear it works really well despite all the publicity in the news
>>>about it. I just wondered if anyone else had been prescribed depression
>>>meds and if you thought it did anything to counteract the low feeling
>>>that some women get taking pain meds.
>>>
>>>JoCee
>>>
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>>JoCee, Hi, I could go on forever and write a book on this subject,and NOTHING
>>about it would be positive.Keep in mind that what I have to say comes from a
>>place of hurt, distrust, and anger.When I moved to a new town and had to get
>> a new Dr, I had no choice who I got as it was a small town and Dr's had full
>> loads, so you took who could take you.I, at that time was on only tylenol#3 for
>>pain and it was not helping any more At All. I told my new Dr my history and
>>she said she was very against pain meds and that she would not prescribe them,
>>endo was something I had to learn to cope with.She said too many women get used
>> to taking pain meds and then seek them out.With that she told me she didnt
>> think pain was the problem but that I suffered from depresson from having
>>"un comfortable" menestration and un nessisary surgeries.She put me on Paxil.
>>After a few months I told her it was not helping and she put me on another.
>> And so on it went all year thru a number of anti-depressents.Nothing ever helped,
>> pain or feelings.She moved and
>>another Dr in her office took my case. I told him that Nothing helps and
>>the pain is unbearable.He said he would put me on zoloft. I took it and
>>felt Worse, I told him, he said the dose was to low and incresed it.
>>The pain was so bad that I took to bed for weeks, I felt a hundred times more depressed
>>and the pain was awful.When Itold him that
>> I couldnt handle the pain anymore heagain incresed the dose of zoloft and said
>>some people need quite high doses. I couldnt get out of bed and my entire
>> personality changed, I had nightmares and was biteing my husband in our sleep.
>>I would go off on rants,I started hoarding pills to committ suicide,I screamed, cried,
>>and hallucinated and wouldnt remember.My husband took me in saying he didnt know who I
>> was and the Dr
>>said I had schitzo-affective disorder, and severe depression,he put me on Lithium,
>>an anti-phycotic and valium.I could no longer get out of bed and started cutting myself,
>> then the siezures started.Then came the siezure meds,By the time I was done I have receipts
>>for 9 meds I was on AT THE SAME TIME.
>>I had many episodes and seizures and was taken by ambulance many times.I took a
>>hand full of hoarded pills and tried to kill myself.This ended me up in a major centre
>>hosp that had a phsyciatrist on staff.By the time I got there I didnt know my name,
>>they left me un attended and later found me under some patients bed searching for my cat.
>>My husband pleeded with the psyc Dr that this was NOT ME! something was SO WRONG
>>and it hadnt been ME all year.They had to restrain me and tie me to the bed.
>>This Dr took me off the Zoloft, within 2 days I knew my name,within 3 I knew
>> everyone and stopped siezing and hallucinating, He stopped all other meds slowly over
>> a couple weeks.Slowly I came back.Not all of me though as I still have
>>much damage to my memory.I guess because of the seizures. It damaged my brain,
>>memories from that year and back are in some cases completly gone or very sketchy.
>>When I came fully back we asked what had happened, he said I had a reaction
>> to Zoloft and instead of seeing that the Dr thought I wasnt recieving high
>> enough doses and my depression was just getting worse. The other meds were
>>to help the other "Pshyciatric"issues I was having, which actualy were
>>reactions and side effects of the meds.I almost lost my life,
>>I lost months,I almost ended up in an institution (if it wasnt for my husband),
>>I SUFFERED, MY KIDS AND HUSBAND SUFFERED.ALL BECAUSE I LET A DR PLAY PSHYCIATRIST!
>>I didnt know any better and trusted they knew what they were doing. Since then
>> I have come to find family Dr's get LITTLE if any formal training on mental
>> disorders or Pshyc meds. I also had my best friends son shoot and kill hiself
>> because he was down, (a teenager) and her family Dr prescribed
>>anti depressent,2 months later he killed himself.Inquiry stated a reaction toprescribed psyc medication.
>>The pshyc Dr that treated me said he was APPAULED.He saved my life.
>>I now fully beleive that a person wouldnt see a gyne Dr for a brain tumor,
>>a pediatrician for breast cancer so why let a family or G.P prescribe
>>medicines that alter your very brain chemistry? If I could tell you one thing it would be,
>>Pain makes anyone feel depressed, that is natural, I would be concerned
>>if it didnt effect you at all, but is it debilitating? can you not function?
>>Do you feel you want to end your life or that everything is hopeless?
>>If so, see a physiciatrist. If not, and you still need to figure it out, SEE
>>A pshyciatrist, If you are just down because it is a hard thing to deal with...
>>that's natural, lean on everyone, talk it out, do you really need mind altering meds to cope?
>>Just be carefull and think just as hard about taking things like this as
>> you would about having an operation.AND FOR HEAVEV"S SAKE...MAKE SURE
>> THE ONE PRESCRIBING IS QUALIFIED!..P.S I live in Canada and one of the
>>hardest things to do in our system is sue a DR. Other wise I would have looked into it.
>>Take care. Sorry I ranted....Loretta Now I am sooo sad just remembering...Take care
>>
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