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Re: cent lap no endo removed!From: Sudsey (anonymous@obgyn.net)Sun Oct 16 08:38:54 2005
I have read that in a diagnostic lap they aren't going in there to remove it but just for diagnosis reasons and some do not schedule the OR for the time amount to remove the Endo. I know that one floored me too. I think when we aren't sure in asking those questions before the laps it can take us by suprise. Lupron doesn't remove it either and it comes back then too hence no cure so either way you go it's comming back so that statement from your doctor is a bit odd to me.I so understand if you are TTC why she chose the Lupron road for you. I'm not fully aware of the Pregnancy rate between removal and lupron myself to know if maybe there is a higher success rate with pregnancy after lupron or not. I'm so sorry to hear you had a ectopic, my heart goes out to you on your loss. I do know that its all important to go in with a list of questions pertaining proceedures and the like. If you are having lap it's important to ask will the Endo be removed what is the recovery time ect. Also important to ask how many patients they have treated with endo, pregnancy what is her success rate with her/ his patients on pregnancy after removal/ lupron. A less experienced Doc isn't bad but makes you quickly learn how important it is to educate you and not feel pressured into any treatment you personaly are not comfortable with..They aren't bad docs but also aren't the one to suffer for the choices either that's you and as a patient you have to advocate for you and if it means not always a yes patient so be it it's your right and hmm your money being spent for the help...I find that yes the longer a Gyn is able to care for a endo patient the more educated they become but when patients go and they aren't well happy with the suggestions it's a disadvantage to the doctor b/c they aren't learning through treating patients either...I find it all important to be able to have a doctor who respects your words an choices. If I do not want a treatment and a doc gets gruff sorry bye bye I need to be heard and taken seriously b/c I'm the one going through this and if I'm in pain and not taken seriously that's not good and if I choose not to take a drug my choice and that's got to be respected.. Often yes it's suddenly the difficult patient but a good doc will respect a patient who's aware of what she needs and doesn't need.. I'm not sure if this helps at all.. The lupron thing is a personal choice that you need to make with your doctor. Take the time to do your homework and write down the questions to ask the doctor. My own misstake was listening to a Gyn who told me after removal it shouldn't have come back and when it did for the 3rd time he refused to remove it acting like I was a special case that it came back. I didn't know much about Endo back 9 yrs ago when that happened to me but long before I knew a thing about lupron the way the doc described it I just had a gut feeling not for me one due to raising my small boys at the time and not willing to ride the emotional rollercoater at the cost of what it would mean in the way of patience/ parenting with my children to consider. My Gyn at the time did agree with my position on that one.. I had no bad information on lupron no posative either so my choice was neither based on biased or non biased information on the drug hence personal choice there..I tried depo Pervera shots and low Oval birth control to bleed constantly on them which took that option out for me. Some have had awesome experiences with Lupron while others have had bad reactions to it and it's important to educate yourself on both sides of that and what you will be willing to go through. It's not to say one side is right or another wrong with lupron but to have all sides of experiences lets you know the full picture. I wish there was some way to know what causes the bad reactions to put that baby to bed but thus far there is not. I'd have to assume it's got something to do with body chemistry. It's the same as the debate over the immune system and antibiotics which yes kills the bad bugs but harm the immune system in the process so do you risk a lowered immune system to fight off the bad bugs or work at boosting the immune system to fight not getting the bad bugs??? I'm ever hopeful on the scientific community to find the cause and cure for this ugly disease and until then at leaste we have this forum right.. Hugs Sudsey
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