Re: Idiot Doctors! How are they in practice?
From: Anna (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat Jul 23 00:53:31 2005
Hello all,
I am so sorry that so many women go through this. It's truly
incredible. My new doc is awesome, and he seems truly shocked by what
I've been through. I am so relieved to have a competant doctor that I
offered to design his website free of charge as a thank you. I'm still
dealing with endo but at least I'm not dealing with idiot doctors who
belittle me and give me wrong information. To anyone reading this who
has been told, "some women just have pain," don't let doctors get away
with that. Switch docs until you find someone who can take your
situation seriously. It's worth it.
I recently sent a nice little informational packet to my
gastroenterologist who had said I had IBS and that the bowel symptoms
were not related to endo. In my packet I provided him with a photo of
the adhesion on my bowel that caused my flexible sigmoidoscopy to be
excruitiatingly painful. All he could say after that procedure was,
"It's not supposed to hurt. You just have a very sharp curve in your
colon that caused your pain." Right. And a big old endo adhesion. That
was just one example of my idiot doctor experiences.
I understand.
-Anna
At Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Isabel wrote:
>
>Hello Ladies,
>
>I hear your frustration. I had extremely bad cramps, to the point that
>I was in bed or crying on the floor each time my period came. My mom
>took me to several doctor, who asked a couple of questions, told me to
>take pain killers, and that this was just part of being a women. I
>tried herbal remedies on top of pain killers and that didn't help. They
>said that I must be sensetive to pain. As the years went by the pain
>was subsiding a bit, but then last year I started getting craping
>outside of my periods. I went to another new doctor, who actually did a
>test. They found out that I had two uteruses and one was partially
>closed. I had a lap after that and they found I had endo so bad, it was
>all over my rib cage and in places he said he never had seen endo
>before.
>
>I had been bleeding back into my stomach for years, the pain had become
>so bad that my nerves stopped working and that's why over time it was
>getting better.
>
>DO NOT LET ANYONE TELL YOU THAT WHAT YOU ARE FEELING IS NORMAL IF YOU
>DON'T THINK SO. GO TO THE DOCTOR AND DEMAND A TEST AND IF THEY WON'T
>LISTEN, GO TO ANOTHER DOCTOR. IF THEY WON'T LISTEN, THEN GO TO YET
>ANOTHER DOCTOR. KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU GET ANSWERS. PAIN IS NOT NORMAL
>IT MEANS THERE IS A PROBLEM.
>
>And Nancy, I would have asked to talk to the ER doctors supervisor and
>made a complaint against him. THAT IS HORRIBLE PRACTICE!
>
>At Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Nancy wrote:
>>
>>I went throught that with an ER doctor too. I do not have a drug use
>>history. He treated me like an off the street junkie. I was so mad and
>>felt so belittled. He told me " this is not your personal little pill
>>shop". then he said " If the pain is real then why don't you do
>>something baout it instead of coming to the ER?" This was the very first
>>time the pain got so bad that I even went to the ER for it. I told him
>>that my doc said wait on a laproscopy and he said," well then I guess
>>you wait". so that was that. He sent me home and told me to take advil
>>and and use a heating pad. I never went back to the ER after that
>>experience.
>>
>>At Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Jessica wrote:
>>>
>>>I know how you feel. I was diagnosed at 17 july of 2004. I have been
>>>having pain since I was 12 but became intense around 16. I had a lap
>>>and endo was removed. I still had a lot of pain. Took Lupron which
>>>made it worse. I'm on medical assitance who changed my insurance around
>>>Nov. So I started seeing a new Gyn. he sent me to a pain clinic and
>>>they did not take me seriously. They put me on methadone. I would go
>>>in monthly-for refills and consultations and weekly for mental and
>>>physical therapy. I was in the E.R. one night and had to have a
>>>cathurtur put in because I was in so much pain I couldnt pee. Since the
>>>physical therapy was pelvic wall massage I was not able to make it to PT
>>>the morning I got out of the E.R. I didnt call which is irresponsible
>>>but I feel asleep the minute I got home. It had been an exhausting
>>>night.
>>>
>>>Anyways, the Pain Clinic Increased and decreased and increaded my meds
>>>then weaneed me off. They did not want to see me anymore. I went back
>>>to my gyno because my pain was not getting any better and I was bleeding
>>>non stop. He had the nerve to sit there and tell me that I switched
>>>insurances to get a new dr to get drugs when infact it wasnt my
>>>descision. He also said the Lap, Urethra Dialtion, D&C, Steriod
>>>epidurals and E.R. visits were all to get drugs. I was trying to
>>>scheme him. He then proceeded to say "I do not write pain pills" I
>>>found it funny that the first time I came into see him he told me he was
>>>giving a lady 40 perc eveyr two weeeks. When I asked about this he
>>>backed himself further into a corner telling me she didnt even have a
>>>diagnosis. He aslo said he didnt beleieve I had endo. His only
>>>solution for me a 19 yr old was to have a baby. He would not do another
>>>lap because he didnt think I had endo even though I had pictures. I'm
>>>glad he didnt do it though. I am now going to see a specialist who
>>>knows about endo and what treatments will help, so i can get of
>>>narcotics out of pain and live a normal life.
>>>
>>>At Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Nancy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Asley I totally understand where you are coming from. My doctors treat
>>>>me like I am dealing with "Phantom pain". They are watching me by doing
>>>>paps every 3 months because of cervical pre~cancerous cells. I have
>>>>been trying to demand a lap because I believe I have Endometriosis. I
>>>>wrote a messege here in the forum and was told it sounds like I have
>>>>adenomyosis which I have discovered is worse than endo. The last time I
>>>>went to see my doc, I was in pain. I was in teers from the pain so bad.
>>>>SHe pressed around my adbominal area and it sent me straight into teers,
>>>>it hurt and SHE LOOKED AT ME like I was playing the ol' crocodile teers
>>>>theme. I was sooooo mad! and I still am! We really need to get all of
>>>>us women together and go on a ranting mad rage,lol.
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Ashley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm sorry for being so harsh but it's true. If I see one more idiot
>>>>>doctor I'm going to scream. I am up for another lap and this one is
>>>>>intense. I have told you all before that I do not have insurance becuse
>>>>>of all my pre-existing and do not qualify for assistance because I make
>>>>>too much money. So, we decided to take a second motgage on the house
>>>>>and just deal with it. So, the money part is taken care of and now it's
>>>>>the drs. I went to the ER 2 weeks ago to get in the system to see a
>>>>>gynecological oncologist. I saw a dr in the ER who said and I quote"you
>>>>>definately need surgery right away and a specialist needs to do it". So
>>>>>i thought , DUH!!!That's why I am here. My dr(who I trust more than
>>>>>anyone) sent me here because he knew that he was not qualified to do the
>>>>>surgery. So, moving on, I got in the system and had an appt at the
>>>>>office last week where they told me to gather all this info and come
>>>>>back today to do the pre-op. I did as instructed and went back today.
>>>>>Well, low and behold, the dr I was suppose to see was called to the ER
>>>>>for an emergency and who walks in? The dr I saw in the ER. She says and
>>>>>I quote "I don't think you should have surgery I think you need to go to
>>>>>the pain clinic." The same dr who said just last week that I definately
>>>>>needed surgery. She then continued to say that most endo patients are
>>>>>fine after one lap and are usually totally cured. And since this is my
>>>>>6th she didn't think it would work. WHAT AN IDIOT!!! I just looked at
>>>>>her and thought , Have you ever even heard of endo before? I just don't
>>>>>understand how these peolpe get a medical license. My mom then asked
>>>>>her, "well, should we just let the endo take over her bladder and
>>>>>intestines until it kills her? Will the pain clinic give her a new
>>>>>bladder?" (God bless pissed off moms) The idiot dr then said...and I
>>>>>quote again "I never said she shouldn't have surgery"....Seriously, we
>>>>>thought she got loose from the Psych ward. So after all that we left
>>>>>and now we just wait. I needed to vent to people who understand, thanks
>>>>>for listening....I will say that that for a brief moment I am out of the
>>>>>depression and focusing on the anger....but I do have to laugh, this is
>>>>>ridiculous.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Nancy
>>>>
>>--
>>Nancy
>>
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