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Re: endometriosis and hpv -one more thing
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue May 17 12:33:01 2005
With all due respect, I was corrected on that misstatement and
acknowldged the corrections. I had been doing two different things at
once and my train of thought got slightly off-track. You want to know
the facts, then use the Internet and do some searches - it's not hard to
find all of the numerous articles in the various medical journals that
dispute whether HPV is a true STD or not and because sexual activity is
NOT the only path of infection it is therefore NOT AN STD!
At Tue, 17 May 2005, anonymous wrote:
>
>Mind you, with all dure respect, this is coming from someone who earlier
>said that HPV caused Herpes, cold sores, and chicken pox. Where does
>this information that HPV is not an STD come from? Where is the
>documentation to support this statement?
>
>At Tue, 17 May 2005, anonymous wrote:
>>
>>Not always. You can develop an active case of HPV due to reasons and
>>causes that do not include or depend upon having had ANY sexual
>>activity.
>>
>>HOWEVER, if you have engaged in sexual activity and you do have an
>>active case of HPV causing symptoms then your partner should be examined
>>as well because it CAN come from someone else who had an active case.
>>
>>HPV can cause genital warts but not always. HPV can cause cervical
>>dysplasia but is not the only cause. Cervical dysplasia can lead to
>>cervical cancer so must be watched and treated. HPV does live in the
>>common warts found on hands & feet and can be spread to other areas of
>>the body or even another person under very specific conditions.
>>
>>Stress will cause a dormant HPV to become active.
>>
>>HPV lives in nearly 100% of the world's human population.
>>
>>Before your doctor announces to you that you have an STD he should first
>>determine the validity of his statement. It has been documented in nuns
>>and other non-sexually active women so that completely blows the HPV=STD
>>theory out of the water and the inaccuracy should not be continued.
>>
>>At Tue, 17 May 2005, anonymous wrote:
>>>
>>>HPV on the cervix or in the genital area is an STD.
>>>
>>>At Mon, 16 May 2005, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I have endometriosis and have just recently been diagnosed with HPV and
>>>>mild dysplasia - am I reading your message right that HPV is not an STD
>>>>like my doctor is leading me to believe?
>>>>
>>>>At Mon, 16 May 2005, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>You are correct I did mis-write the info on Herpes/HPV. Sorry, that's
>>>>>what happens when doing more than one thing at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks for the clarification of my jumbled post.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Mon, 16 May 2005, Jules wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anon,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know where exactly you got your information from but there were
>>>>>>at least two things you wrote that are wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1-Endometriosis is not identified visually. It can be suspected
>>>>>>visually, but it must be sent to pathology to confirm before a diagnosis
>>>>>>will be made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2-Herpes is not caused by HPV. HPV is the virus that causes warts.
>>>>>>Every kind of wart, from planters warts to genital warts. It also
>>>>>>causes cervical dysplasia. There are hundreds of strains of HPV, none
>>>>>>of which cause Herpes or cold sores or chicken pox. They are caused by
>>>>>>the Herpes Simplex virus. HS1 is very common and is usually responsible
>>>>>>for cold sores around or in the mouth. HS2 is not as common and is
>>>>>>usually responsible for genital herpes, though HS1 can be spread to the
>>>>>>genitals also and vise-versa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>><><
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Fri, 13 May 2005, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Endometriosis CAN activate a dormant HPV.
>>>>>>>Stress = emotional, mental, physical, medical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At Fri, 13 May 2005, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>*sigh*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HPV is not caused by nor does it cause endometriosis and any doctor who
>>>>>>>>confuses the two should be immediately sent for a brain scan to see if
>>>>>>>>there is any living tissue between the ears.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Endometriosis is diagnosed via laparoscopic surgery and visual
>>>>>>>>identification.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HPV can be diagnosed with a vaginal swab or a swab of any of the other
>>>>>>>>number of places that any of the hundreds of mutations and variations of
>>>>>>>>HPV can be found including but not limited to your genitals, mouth,
>>>>>>>>hands and feet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HPV, often thought to be an STD, can be contracted without sexual
>>>>>>>>contact (this has been scientifically and medically documented many,
>>>>>>>>many, many times despite some commonplace theories to the contrary).
>>>>>>>>Having HPV is not evidence that you or your partner cheated, became
>>>>>>>>infected and then infected the other person. HPV is a virus that is
>>>>>>>>believed to be living silently in the bodies of nearly 100% of the human
>>>>>>>>race what activates the virus in some people has not been established
>>>>>>>>with 100% certainty but the belief is that stress, other illnesses or
>>>>>>>>certain other immune-system conditions will trigger the dormant virus
>>>>>>>>into an active state. Medications such as zovirax is used to control
>>>>>>>>the outbreak and return the virus to dormant state. The same medication
>>>>>>>>is used whether the type of HPV you have is genital herpes, common cold
>>>>>>>>sore or chicken pox. All of which are HPVs. Gynecologists, family
>>>>>>>>practice and general medicine doctors can easily diagnose and treat it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Endometriosis is a biological disease and the trigger or triggers are
>>>>>>>>not 100% identified and determined thus the difficulty in establishing a
>>>>>>>>reliable treatment protocol that works across the board with some sense
>>>>>>>>of reliability and predictability. Reproductive Endocrinologists and
>>>>>>>>skilled Laparoendoscopic Surgeons are who you need to seek treatment
>>>>>>>>from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At Fri, 13 May 2005, Miranda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At Tue, 14 May 2002, JAMIE wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>hi, i just wanted to know if anyone knew of a connection between the
>>>>>>>>>>two?Can a doctor misdiagnose you and say you have hpv and you really
>>>>>>>>>>have endometriosis?
>>>>>>>>>>jamie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jamie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Could you let me know if you get an answer to this question? I just
>>>>>>>>>tested positive for HPV and I was wondering the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>Endometriosis runs in my family so I was thinking the same exact thing.
>>>>>>>>>I hope to talk to you soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Miranda
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