Re: shark cartilage-antiangiogensis to treat endo??
From: Lori (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue Aug 31 10:30:35 2004
Hi,
oops I am sorry I am saying that I only took it a few times because it
was too much for me to take, so I cannot report on it. Since you are
taking so much stuff, is it possible that you can get monitored by a
natural type of Dr, besides your reg. Dr.? I think then you can have
the best of both worlds.
The only thing that I ever did on my own was natural progesterone cream.
The rest I had advice for. Since you are taking prescriptions also, it
seems you should have a program put together for you. Perhaps a
naturopath http://www.naturopathic.org or an accupuncurist or herbal Dr.?
Possibly you can call my accupuncurist & see what kind of treatment he
used with this other woman with the coughing up of blood. I imagine he
would probably give free advice, as he is so nice. I am just a little
concerned about you using so many things together as you say now.
Possibly seeing a Dr. specific for this can eliminate some of the
things you are taking to save costs, but also be more specific with your
individual health.
If a program is put together for you from the experts, you should not
experience any side effects treating it the natural route that is, as
there motto is "do no harm" in treating.
If you are not interested in this, I can give you a site that treats
endo with herbs, vitamins & much more....it is endo natural but I do not
remember the link now-maybe they can give you more advice about the
things you are taking.
Hope it all goes well with you & you can find a path to healing.
--
Lori
http://www.theendoclub.com
With At Tue, 31 Aug 2004, jules wrote:
>
>Hi Lori, thanks for your info. Yes, I do believe you take that much
>stuff, I do to. About 15 various vitamins a day, a dozen prescriptions,
>plus homeopathic remedies and teas. I also use evening primrose oil
>mixed with other oils on my skin all over, I tried the pills but it
>upset my stomache too much so I switched to rubbing it in, which I think
>I"ve had luck with, but still need more luck. I've read allot about
>sharks c. treating conditions which make their own blood supply, I've
>read about good results, I'm wondering what I'm doing to my ovaries
>though, becuase I know ovaries are sort of like tumors, they have their
>own blood supply and antiangiogenesis drugs that are being researched
>are known to make the ovaries non-functional, since it cuts off their
>blood supply, I'm wondering if natural antiangiogenesis does this too,
>and if it's a permanent condition. I'm only 31, want more kids someday,
>(I'm blessed to somehow have a boy who's 6, my miracle baby!!!) so I
>don't want to screw up my ovaries. Did taking that much do anything to
>your ovaries? I"m not taking that much of it, 6 capsules a day, if I can
>get them all down. I'm hoping taking a variety of things will mean I
>need less of each and less side effects from any one thing. What do you
>think??
>
>At Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Lori wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>I hope this helps but perhaps I am not answering your question. I have
>>been on lots of herbal, now homeopathic, vitamins, progesterone cream...
>>My 1st Dr. did give me shark cartlidge-actually I was supposed to take
>>20 pills a day to shrink an endo lump. I just could not do it, I was
>>already taking 27 vitamins a day & 9 tonics-Yes it is true! boy did I
>>feel good! after treatments with him, but oh so broke. Could not handle
>>taking any more pills so never took them.
>>
>>but I was hopeful about the shark as I read a lot about it. Mine is a
>>long story.... anyways I feel if it is not harmful to you in the long
>>run, then why not try it. I have put a lot of research, prayers...into
>>this endo body this year & have had wonderful results!! I am still being
>>treated as the natural route takes time, but it is a build up of the
>>immune system, also balancing hormones which should take time. I am
>>also taking adrenal gland cortex made from sheeps adrenal
>>glands(australian sheep they say -ha ha)this is for adrenal gland
>>fatigue which was a result of the stress of the endo.
>>
>>I have never read any findings on the shark here or even on endo natural
>>but it does seem promising in my opinion.
>>
>>Funny but Today I had an appt. with my accupuncurist, who just told me
>>about a woman he started treating with endo in the lung. He told me
>>that she would cough up blood every period, she had previous surgery to
>>remove the endo in her lung, but a year later it just came back. Hence
>>I think the reason to treat the endo with other hopeful measures.....
>> God Bless
>>
>>My story & more...
>>http://www.theendoclub.com
>>
>>At Mon, 30 Aug 2004, jules wrote:
>>>
>>>Has anyone tried using shark cartilage or sheep sorrel or something
>>>similar to treat endo? I've just started on it, (with a cocktail of
>>>other things, prescription, herbal, and homeopathic) but I'm wondering
>>>if anyone has personal experience treating endo this way. In theory,
>>>there's something in the afformentioned which supresses the blood supply
>>>to the lesions, which will result in atrophy and the lesions dying off.
>>>Same concept in some cancer treatments, cut off blood supply to the
>>>tumor and it will shrink. Has this worked for anyone? I really need
>>>something like this to work, I have stage 4 endo, just about everywhere.
>>>Pelvic cavity, abdominal cavity, underneath my ribs, on my collar bone,
>>>in my knuckles, and I think in my lungs. It hasn't been confirmed in my
>>>lungs, but every period I get I start coughing up a little blood. That's
>>>the only time though, during my period. Surgery can't possibly get it
>>>all, so we're trying everything to shrink it medicinally. Any input
>>>will be much appreciated!! thanks!
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