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Re: - progesterone update
From: Dawn (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Aug 25 16:23:24 2004
Lana,
That is a really good question, and something that I have wondered, even
though I'm not still on the Lupron. If the Lupron puts the body into a
menopausal state, then I wonder how it would differ from using the
add-back therapy? Unfortunately, I have NO clue. If you research it and
find out anything for sure, please post!
At Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Lori wrote:
>
>Hi
>I would say: NO WAY- DO NOT USE IT WITH LUPRON both hormonal.
> I get it from the health food store.
>
>--
>Lori
>my story http://www.theendoclub.com
>
>At Tue, 24 Aug 2004, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>>
>>Hi all,
>>Just had a question about the progesterone cream. Can you use it while
>>on Lupron? My pain is constant and is more like a constant burn. Do you
>>think this cream would help? Where can I get it?
>>Thanks
>>Lana
>>
>>At Sat, 14 Aug 2004, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Dawn,
>>>
>>>I'm so glad to hear that the cream is helping you. It REALLY helped me
>>>too. I still use it some during my periods too b/c it really seems to
>>>help with cramps. I rub it right over the area that is cramping. Dr.
>>>Lee's books are great! I learned so much. Every part of our bodies are
>>>so related to everything else. I had no idea. The cream seems to help
>>>my allergies when they are flaring really bad. I rub it right over the
>>>areas that area hurting. And it seems to help my knee pain. I read in
>>>Dr. Lee's books that this could be a "side effect" and it sure was for
>>>me. Yea! :-)
>>>
>>>I haven't been able to get off coffee completely either, but I did
>>>manage to cut down to one mug of 1/3 or less caffeine and the rest
>>>decaffeinated. I reduced the caffeine slowly because I was getting
>>>withdrawals headaches. Also, organic coffee should not have the
>>>chemicals that other coffees have, so it is safer from a chemical
>>>standpoint. Just be sure to get it from a reputable producer. I was
>>>buying organic "flavored" coffees from Whole Foods when all of the
>>>sudden, it disappeared from the shelves. I asked what happened and was
>>>told that Whole Foods independently tested those coffees and found that
>>>they found chemicals in them! GRRRRR makes me mad that these producers
>>>can get away with that stuff (and I lost my favorite coffee). :-)
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>Bett
>>>
>>>At Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Dawn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Jill Mary, Lori, et al.,
>>>>OK, this progesterone cream is pretty awesome stuff! I've been on it 2
>>>>weeks now, and I've had SIGNIFICANT improvement in my mood, insomnia,
>>>>and my IBS symptoms! Is it possible that it did all that? The diarrhea
>>>>has been gone all this week, and I was taking Colestid for that almost
>>>>every day. I haven't had to take any in over a week now.
>>>>I finally got John Lee's book, "What your doctor may not tell you about
>>>>premenopause", and I definitely think I have been estrogen dominant my
>>>>whole life, so I'm hoping and praying that this cream is the answer for
>>>>me! I wish I could be disciplined enough to go on the no
>>>>wheat-sugar-meat diet. I think it would probably help also. I did give
>>>>up caffeine, and I was about a 3-4 cup a day coffee drinker. That about
>>>>killed me, because I LOVED my coffee. It was especially hard to smell
>>>>it in the mornings when my husband made it, but it is getting easier. I
>>>>never knew about caffeine's impact on estrogen, and that it is heavily
>>>>sprayed with DDT. This book is so interesting!
>>>>It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the painful cramps
>>>>to get better, Lee mentions in this book that it can take 3-4 months
>>>>after starting to use the cream to see improvement in the pain.
>>>>Just wanted to share that with you all!
>>>>TGIF,
>>>>Dawn
>>>>
>>>>At Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Jill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Dawn,
>>>>>
>>>>>Just wanted to let you know that I use the same progesterone cream
>>>>>(Pro-Gest). I use it at night before bed and have had the best sleep at
>>>>>nights than I have had in years. I also noticed that I had more energy
>>>>>in the daytime and was able to jog a little more when I went for my
>>>>>brisk walks at night. I am starting my 4th month of continual use and
>>>>>as far as my heavy bleeding goes, it has not lowered it yet, but has
>>>>>shortened it by a day. It helped a little with the cramping, but I also
>>>>>began to take Omega 3 last month and it helped the best. I had minimal
>>>>>cramping! So glad!
>>>>>
>>>>>Just wanted to share that with you.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jill Mary <><
>>>>>
>>>>>At Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Dawn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lori,
>>>>>>Thanks for the information. I started using Pro-gest last Saturday. Too
>>>>>>soon to tell what it will do for my painful cramps, but I have noticed
>>>>>>an improvement in my mood the last couple of days. I was really weepy
>>>>>>and now do not feel that way at all. I don't know if it has anything to
>>>>>>do with the Pro-gest, but it's really improved a lot! I got that brand
>>>>>>because that is the brand that is mentioned in the new Endometriosis
>>>>>>Association/Mary Lou Ballweg's book: Endometriosis: the complete
>>>>>>reference for taking charge of your health, c2004. Got another lap
>>>>>>scheduled for December, but I thought I would try this to see if it
>>>>>>would help me get through the pain till then.
>>>>>>I'm on hold for some of John Lee's books at the library... hope they
>>>>>>come in soon.
>>>>>>Thanks and have a great weekend!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Tue, 3 Aug 2004, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.life-flo.com/shop/womenshealth.asp
>>>>>>>This is the brand I use. Pro-gestacare. It worked for me progressivly
>>>>>>>over a period of a few months. The 1st month was a major difference in
>>>>>>>Pain & then it became very minimal pain at about 3 months. I have been
>>>>>>>using it I think about 3 years now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Before: 5 days of horrid pain with sharp intermittent pains all month
>>>>>>>with passing clots also. Now: 1 day of pain if I forget to use all the
>>>>>>>doses the prior month. Some months no pain. No clotting. I did have
>>>>>>>other endo problems that required more.....but the pain
>>>>>>>part-Halleluia!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I use it every day 2x a day. I stop it once I feel my period coming &
>>>>>>>continue it once the period is over-this brand has a dose that comes out
>>>>>>>automatically, so it does not need to be measured.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It tends not to be believed that it could possiblly work-something over
>>>>>>>the counter from a health food store-come on!!!! this is what most think
>>>>>>>& most gynos do not believe it also- but it contains natural
>>>>>>>progesterone bioidentical to what your body makes.
>>>>>>>Do not just listen to me, If you want to write to me, I will look up the
>>>>>>>link to endo natural where their are many women who use it their with
>>>>>>>good results. Also their is a good link to Dr. Lees website with more
>>>>>>>info I would have to look up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>write to me if any other ?'s & if it works for you, please post on this
>>>>>>>forum, as others may want to know your results. It is not supposed to
>>>>>>>be used with any other hormones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lori
>>>>>>>my story http://www.theendoclub.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Dawn wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>I just have a few questions about using the progesterone for endo for
>>>>>>>>the current forum folks--
>>>>>>>>I was wondering... of those who have had good success with the natural
>>>>>>>>progesterone cream for your endo symptoms -- how long did it take to
>>>>>>>>start to see results after you started using it, what brand do you use,
>>>>>>>>and how often/what days of your cycle do you use it?
>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance!
>>>>>
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