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Re: FRUSTRATED!!
From: Stephanie (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Aug 18 13:30:40 2004
I have a question if you can't eat sugar, wheat, junk food, caffeine,
and little or no dairy....What do you eat????? It sounds almost
impossible.
At Wed, 18 Aug 2004, anonymous wrote:
>
>I have seen some posts for a few months now where the woman is saying
>she has changed her diet, used natural alternatives and found absolutely
>no relief. I am curious about that. Questions I would ask: 1. How
>long did you change your diet for? 2. Exactly WHAT did you change? 3.
>Did you do it fully? i.e....organic, no sugar, no wheat, no junk food,
>no caffeine, little or no dairy? 4. What program/natural source did you
>use to get your information from regarding what to change in your diet?
>5. Were you faithful to exercise? 6. What kind of exercise did you
>do/how often? 7. Are you a smoker or drinker? 8. Did you use an
>organic vitamin that has been 3rd party double-blind tested? 9. Did you
>use a high grade fish oil? 10. Herbs (under the supervision of a
>specialist)? 11. Did you buy the right kind of progesterone cream -
>again...who was your source of information on this? 12. Did you get to
>bed on time? 13. How long did you try this all for? 14. Have you had
>your blood and/or saliva tested?
>
>Thank you Chris, for speaking the truth about several things in your
>article. My husband is wonderful as well. He has been quite patient,
>and has seen the fruits of my natural approach, I am ssssoooo much
>better. Many women say that we are all different, what works for some,
>may not work for another. If they would seriously consider that eating
>healthy and getting proper exercise and so forth cures and helps MANY
>illnesses, is NOT bad for you, and has NO side effects, as well as
>ALWAYS helps, they would be in a better place. I seriously hope they
>will research it. It takes a person with self-discipline.
>
>--
>Anonymous
>
>At Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Chris wrote:
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>>I talked with a guy on a plane a few days ago who's business is buying
>>and selling books related to Chinese traditional medicine. He knows a
>>ton about Chinese treatments for everything from infertility, endo, back
>>pain, etc, and suggested that people who are at the end of their rope
>>with Western medicine actually GO to China and seek treatment there from
>>one of the many women's health centers.
>>
>>It may sound like an extreme, but given how many of you women seem to
>>have tried everything Western medicine has to offer, I would look into
>>it.
>>
>>I'm the husband of a wonderful woman who's dealing with endo now (*only*
>>4-5 months now) and I am 100% certain from my own research that neither
>>Lupron nor any of the conventional Western treatments deal with the
>>source of the problem, and so we are 3 weeks into a Chinese herbal
>>treatment complimented with a lower-stress lifestyle and birth control.
>>So far she's doing moderately better than before, but we're hopeful that
>>once we get her liver functioning well again that things will get much
>>better.
>>
>>Lastly, I'd advise anyone on this board to stay away from Lupron; in my
>>own opinion, it's far too dangerous of a drug with far too little
>>benefit to risk it. I hear people are getting sued for saying that, but
>>I'd rather help you all out in any way I can even if it means putting
>>myself at risk.
>>
>>Good luck to you all, and if there were a million me's, one of me would
>>be giving each and every one of you a royal foot massage!
>>
>>-Chris
>>
>>At Tue, 17 Aug 2004, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
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>>>At Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Lori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The hormones have to be balanced & the immune system built up! or
>>>>endless treatments....
>>>>
>>>>Have you even considered a naturopath? or other alternative drs. like
>>>>chinese medicine....Here is info on naturopath drs. but very important
>>>>to find those that specialize in womens care.
>>>>http://www.naturopathic.org
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Lori
>>>>http://www.theendoclub.com
>>>>
>>>>At Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Amy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I had an MRI last week and just got the results today...NOTHING. What a
>>>>>surprise! I am so frustrated by this whole thing. Everytime there is an
>>>>>idea of this or that they find nothing that should be causing me pain.
>>>>>No new adhesions, no cysts, nothing. I have had endo for 11 years and
>>>>>it is worse now than it has ever been. I am tired of the pills. Pills
>>>>>to sleep, pills for pain, other bills for pain, BCP, pills for
>>>>>headaches, pills for depression. DOES IT EVER END!!!! I keep thinking
>>>>>that if I had a disease that required a positive state of mind for
>>>>>recovery that I would be a goner.
>>>>>Besides the endo, I am having alot of maritial problems. Besides being
>>>>>moved away from my entire family several months ago, my husband
>>>>>traveling for work all the time, and not knowing anyone where we live, I
>>>>>am tired of the misunderstanding of my emotions and his being frustrated
>>>>>with me not feeling well, being sad, or in pain. HOW DOES HE THINK I
>>>>>FEEL!!!! My husband is one of those men that thinks that if there is a
>>>>>problem then there is a solution. NOT WITH THIS BUDDY! After reading
>>>>>other's messages, how does a hysterectomy sound like a solution when
>>>>>some still have pain afterwards!?
>>>>>My doctor's latest is to go on Lupron for 3-6 months, with BCP to reduce
>>>>>hot flashes OR a hysterectomy to stop the pain from the 'increased
>>>>>activity' of my uterus. I have a friend on Lupron and while it may be a
>>>>>temporary fix, what hell you go through while you are on it. Do men run
>>>>>these drug companies find these "cures" for us with the absolute most
>>>>>terrible side effects that they can find?!!! Good grief!
>>>>>Anyone out there feeling the same or have any advice that you think may
>>>>>help me. I am about to lose my mind! Sorry to vent but I just need to
>>>>>hear that someone else is feeling this way.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Amy
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>Hi Amy, Boy do I feel for you becasue I am going thrue the same thing right now, I had my hysterectomy in feb 2004 and I was praying that it would take my pain away well it aug and my pain has gotten worse, I have done the lupron for 1year and now have to do another 6 months, I feel horrible on this shot and I refer to it the shot from hell. I will be in bed for a week and have only maybe 1 week that I feel ok .I have to go wed tomorrow for my next shot and I really don't want to do this any more. Every bone in my body hurts on this shot and the dr might have to go back in for the ovaries and tubes because of endometriosis. So I really know what your going thrue.My husband is there for me most of the time but I feel how much more can he take with me like this. I take pain pills for pain but my god I don't want to be on those the rest of my life. I'm scared because the thought of going back in for more surgery just terrifies me but I don't know what else to do. I"m at my witts end now. I guess I'll have to just keep praying to god that I will get better what else can I do. Well you hang in there too keep in touch maybe we can get each other thrue all this. Good luck to you and hang in there.
>>>Pam
>>>
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