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Re: D. N. Re: Pain getting worse w/ perimenopause
From: Mercy (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue Jul 27 09:00:22 2004
Thanks for your support, D.N.--it really helped me through a trying
time. As for chaste tree, from what I've read, it is not directly
progesterogenic but rather it stimulates the pituitary gland to produce
more luteinizing hormone, which in turn, stimulates the ovaries to
produce progesterone. Maybe it also stimulates estrogen production, I
don't know. All I know is that it seems to help my symptoms. Thanks
again so much for your help. M
At Mon, 26 Jul 2004, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
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>Hi,
>
>I am glad that you are feeling some relief. I thought that chaste tree
>extract was estrogenic. Some women that can cause more problems, others
>don't seem to have problems.
>I sure know what you mean about having some relief, even if it is
>temporary. It sure can make you grateful for painfree days.
>
>Thanks for letting me know how you are doing.
>
>Best wishes,
>D.N.
>
>At Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Mercy wrote:
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>>Hi,
>>
>>I just wanted to update you. I just finished w/ my first period since
>>April and have noticed alot of relief of the symptoms that I was having
>>(back pain, bladder annoyance, pelvic aching). I did use progesterone
>>cream daily and also am taking chaste tree extract (1 dropperful in
>>water 2x per day). I don't know if that helped bring on a period or
>>what but will follow the same routine this month. So, I think that your
>>theory is right! The endo builds up during perimenopause w/ nowhere to
>>go. What a relief to have some relief even if it's temporary.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mercy
>>
>>At Tue, 29 Jun 2004, D.N. wrote:
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>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am in a similar situation. I have ORS after having almost everything
>>>removed. Perimeno symptoms are very strong at times and other times
>>>very low - like hot flashes etc. In the past year it has intensified.
>>>Overall, I have less endo symptoms; however, in this past month I know
>>>my estrogen levels have been on the higher side because lack of hot
>>>flashes, etc and I had a day where I ran a temp of 100 and it felt like
>>>I was having a cycle. Also having some bowel problems. My pain has
>>>changed some from being just located in a lymph node, to being more
>>>centralized and it can cause sciatica pain and low back pain. Sometimes
>>>I feel like I have a bladder infection because I get similar - urgency,
>>>irritated bladder feeling, but then it goes away.
>>>
>>>I think because perimeno is not cut and dry you will have times when
>>>your estrogen is going higher than what you are used to and it
>>>stimulates the endo and then causes more pain. This is my hypothesis. I
>>>know I have not ovulated in over a year, but have times when my estrogen
>>>will go up. I have certain feelings that come when I have a "cycle". It
>>>often feels like a period even without having a uterus. Crampy, achy
>>>feelings. Sometimes intense feelings of pain/sharp pains/burning pains.
>>>When my estrogen is lower- lots of hot flashes etc, I feel better,
>>>except for the sleeping problems.
>>>
>>>I hope this info helps. Write back if you have more questions.
>>>Best wishes,
>>>D.N.
>>>
>>>At Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Mercy wrote:
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>>>>I am 46 years old and have 25 year history of endo. Have large lesion
>>>>in upper vagina and recently have developed relatively severe pain in
>>>>the bladder, urethra, and low back. Feel like I have to urinate
>>>>constantly but antibiotics have not helped. Of course, I am scared that
>>>>I have something worse--like cancer--. Just looking for some support.
>>>>I'm not on any meds except Advil and Naproxen nor have I had surgery. My
>>>>diagnosis was confirmed by biopsy of vaginal lesion and when I had
>>>>C-section delivery. I now get period only 4 or 5 times per year but
>>>>pain is unrelated to cycle. Anyone else?
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