Re: Fatigue
From: Jill (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Mon Jul 26 16:51:32 2004
Hello all,
I agree with Bett and Lori. The overwhelming majority of those who are
having surgery and using the drug therapies are still struggling in so
many ways, and I feel so sorry for them. I can relate though, I myself
went on birth control for a few months and even thought about having
ablation therapy done. I was pretty desperate too, so I understand the
desire for 'immediate relief'. I realize there are a handful of women
who have said that they feel fine on the drugs, but I only read this
from women who had not been on it long. RemedyFind.com has some
excellent statistics regarding the use of drugs vs. using natural
methods.
I beseech readers to look carefully at all the serious problems and side
effects of most of the women on here. It is sad to hear some of these
stories. It breaks my heart. Yet the majority (if not all) of the
women who are seriously altering their diet and lifestyle by exercise,
supplements, and other methods are finding relief.
Bett is right, many Americans believe they are eating healthy. I
thought I was. I had no clue that our meat and dairy contained
hormones! I had no clue they were injected with antibiotics! I had no
clue that they were penned into such small enclosures that they
literally were stressed and that we eat their stress hormones when we
eat their meat. I had no clue that the 'nutritious' applesauce and
veggies and juice being fed to babies was loaded with insecticide and
such...causing all sorts of problems. I had no clue that sugar was
processed to such an extreme to where it is no longer a food, but almost
a drug.
I am feeling so much better, I wish it for everyone.
For those on drugs, please don't feel threatened by what I am saying, I
understand. I only ask that you please research some natural
treatments, and see for yourself what happens. I really care about the
suffering you are going through.
--
Jill Mary
At Mon, 26 Jul 2004, ayda wrote:
>
>At Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Renee wrote:
>>
>>Hi Bett & Lori,
>>
>>Bett are you in El Paso? I would be nice to speak with a fellow El
>>Pasoan. I was born and lived in El Paso until 1997. I still have
>>family there and visit every year. Thank you both for the info. I was
>>thinking of taking the hollistic approach myself. Maybe looking in to
>>herbal therapy and unconventional approaches. Any info on this is
>>greatly appreciated. I will check out the websites you both have
>>listed. I have just had a nother cycle and it is gradually getting
>>worse. I have been so tired since my cycle finished the other day. I
>>fell asleep at 7pm and woke up at 7am. I never do this. I had a
>>sonogram this morning - very painful for some reason. My doctor said
>>something about adenofibrosis or a-something-fibrosis. I am looking
>>into that. I am scheduled for a repeat lap next week and will know more
>>after that. So in the meantime - research and praying and hoping she
>>can burn some of this off or help me in some way. Thank you for your
>>feedback. I try to visit at least a few times a week to learn what I
>>can.
>>
>>--
>>Renee
>
>Hi,
>
>My name is Ayda and this is the first time I have entered this site.
>
>I also suffer from endo. In fact in February this year I underwent a
>some major surgery which took nearly 3 months to recover.
>
>Last year my condition got so bad that I had to take alot of time off
>work and had no quality of life. like yourself was always tired
>regardless of how much sleep I got in the one day.
>
>The surgery has helped however during my periods I began to experience
>pain and once again I was very tired and found myself curled up with a
>heat pack.
>Not anymore! A friend of mine recommended vitamins, a product called
>Mannatech. I can't believe the difference it has made to my health. I
>have more engergy, my friends are commenting on how great I look and I
>no longer experience pain during my periods. If only I had known about
>this product last year I am sure it would have made my life better.
>
>Here is the website for Mannatech. Take the time and have a look at it.
>If you have any questions please email me and I will also be happy to
>explain how to order the products. My friend was kind enough to spend
>the time to show me.
>http://www.mannatech.com and the science website is www.glycoscience.com
><http://www.glycoscience.com> .
>
>Good luck and I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>Be kind to yourself.
>
>Regards,
>
>--
>Ayda
>>
>>At Fri, 16 Jul 2004, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>>>
>>>I had VERY VERY bad fatigue problems a few years ago. I would be so
>>>tired I could hardly move when I would get home from work. I would
>>>think "Surely, if I sleep extra hours on Sat, I will feel better". Well,
>>>I'd sleep until 1:00, 2:00, or sometimes 3:00pm, get up for an hour or 2
>>>and still feel exhausted so I'd have to take a nap for a few hours. I'd
>>>get up, grocery shop, come home and collapse. So, then I'd think
>>>"Surely, if I sleep in Sunday too, THEN I feel better." I'd do the same
>>>thing Sunday and STILL not feel rested. This went on for at least a
>>>year and I never felt rested. I was also having SERIOUS memory
>>>problems. I'm a paralegal and pride myself on being able to remember
>>>everything about my cases, but I was getting to where I couldn't
>>>remember squate. It was REALLY scaring me. I starting to think there
>>>was something seriously wrong with me, like cancer. I went to an MD, I
>>>think he was a Rheumatologist, but I could be wrong. Anyway, I asked if
>>>I could be missing some vitamin(s) or maybe not eating healthy enough.
>>>He said that there is no way that could be true, because the American
>>>diet was the healthiest in the world. Well, I'd read just enough at
>>>that point, to KNOW that was definitely NOT true. We don't have the
>>>starvation that some countries have, but it's far from healthy. So, I
>>>never went back to him. Luckily, later I got a new chiropractor (yes, I
>>>was having BAD fibromyalgia symptoms too) and he happened to be officing
>>>with a holistic type doctor. He got my diet straightened out (mostly
>>>getting off carbs, particularly the ones that have been stripped of
>>>nutrients, like white bread, white pasta, white rice etc.) and he gave
>>>me some herbs. I felt SO MUCH BETTER after that. It really is
>>>remarkable.
>>>
>>>All these symptoms are related, but whether one is caused by the other I
>>>don't know. I think it's more likely that we Endo sufferers are just a
>>>lot more sensitive to everything than the average person is, so we just
>>>have to be extra vigilant about what we eat and what we put on our
>>>bodies.
>>>
>>>A lot of americans think they eat healthy but when you spend time with a
>>>naturopathis or holistic doctor, you realize your died was actually
>>>pretty crappy. Most americans, myself included, don't have time to pick
>>>out fresh veggies and cook etc. We reach for the quick, packaged stuff
>>>and most of it has been so overprocessed and stripped of nutrients, that
>>>it shouldn't even be classified as food anymore. merica now has an
>>>EPIDEMIC (yes, it now has been classified as epidemic levels) of obesity
>>>which are the results of overeating AND eating the wrong food. Not only
>>>does it cause heart attacks, diabetes and cancer, but it so effects
>>>other diseases like Endo.
>>>
>>>If at all possible, try to find a naturopathic or holistic doctor or at
>>>least find some books on it. I'm reading a VERY good book right now
>>>(can't remember the entire name today because I don't have it with
>>>me---but search the back posts on this site. I've written about it
>>>before).
>>>
>>>At Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Lori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I have had the fatigue also, so many years, caused by stress of the
>>>>disease. That is how I always described it -before, during & after my
>>>>period-like I was hit by a truck!! as I could sleep forever! after the
>>>>cycle was over,it was like I wanted to sleep so much, but could not
>>>>sleep. & yes I had a clean bill of health thru my medical dr.(oh my I
>>>>felt so bad)This is the worst symptom for me, but I am so much better
>>>>now. I am seeing a naturopathic dr. http://www.naturopathic.org -way too much
>>>>to write all here, YES SO ENDO RELATED!!! feeling much better recently
>>>>with diet.... & recently diagnosed with adrenal gland fatigue-you need
>>>>a saliva test to diagnose this one. Mainstream Drs. can see adrenal
>>>>gland failure, but not sure if they recognize adrenal gland fatigue?
>>>>Hope it gets better!!!
>>>>Lori
>>>>http://www.theendoclub.com
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Renee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>This may have been touched on, but I was curious. You know when you are
>>>>>getting the flu and your body feels like it was hit by a truck - sore,
>>>>>tired, not even like it is attached to your head.....well that to me is
>>>>>fatigue. Not where I want to sleep, just where I want to lie down in a
>>>>>soft bed and not move for a year or so. Im trying to determine if this
>>>>>fatigue is from the endo or not. I can work and I can do daily stuff,
>>>>>but my body just feels so bad. I could always lose some weight, but I
>>>>>am not unhealthy. I have had excellent blood work, normal blood
>>>>>pressure, no diabetes, no high cholesterol, all normal. The only
>>>>>exception is endometriosis and an occasional kidney stone. So the pain
>>>>>the week before, during and after my cycle is endo - withou a doubt. But
>>>>>where is this fatigue coming from? I seem to recall being like this over
>>>>>the last 3 years or so and my endo was present for about 4 years, that
>>>>>we think. I read that endo can cause chronic fatigue syndrome, which I
>>>>>don't think my situation is that bad, but is it likely to be the cause
>>>>>of fatigue? And I continue to hear people talk about Fibromyalgia and
>>>>>its relationship to endo. Can someone who has been told they have both
>>>>>or someone experiencing similar fatigue shed some light on this for me?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Renee
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Renee
>>>>>renee-entc@austin.rr.com
>>>>>
>>--
>>Renee
>>renee-entc@austin.rr.com
>>
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