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Re: Sad sad thing
From: ANON (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Apr 15 15:28:25 2004
Ok, we get that you are passionate about this issue, but good grief! For
the record, doctors (and their physicians assistants) are allowed to
refill pain meds at a certain dosage for a set amount of time and/or a
certain number of refills. If the pharmacy refuses to fill it, then the
patient has to go to the office to be re-evaluated. I know this because
I work in a dr's office. I agree that we should be nice to our medical
personnel (since I am one of those people), however, women with endo can
receive some extremely incompetent care and it's frustrating. I would
never treat my patients the way I have been treated in the past by
various dr's and their staff members, but it happens. So, can we just
drop this? The purpose of this forum is to help women with endo, not
witness an messageboard version of Jerry Springer.
At Thu, 15 Apr 2004, anonymous wrote:
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>Anon,
>
>The fact that my dad got addicted to pain pills does not color my
>judgement of others and it is not my "personal cause." Yes, Candace did
>the right thing by calling her doctor's office, but you failed to
>mention that her doctor's office also did the right thing. Pain pills
>should not be prescribed over the phone, nor should any prescription
>drug for that matter. How do you know that they only want to
>"inconvenience" her by making her run back and forth every time she
>needs a prescription? FYI, doctor's are allowed by law to give enough
>birth control to last for 12 months but no longer. There is GOOD reason
>for that. A women on bc should be seen and have an exam done every 12
>months to prevent bad things from happening to her body. She should
>also be evaluated and have an exam done PRIOR to being prescribed bc. I
>am sick and tired of people posting "hate mail" about doctor's offices
>for doing their jobs!! Her doctor's office could have gotten in a lot of
>trouble for giving her pain meds while her doctor was not in the office.
>Simply having another doctor look over her file is not enough!! Her
>doctor's office did the RIGHT thing by telling her that they could not
>prescribe her pain meds without the doctor who had seen her giving them
>the OK.
>
>I would also like to respond to the comment about "nailing the SOBs."
>What good has her cursing the doctor's office staff done? Has anything
>changed? Are they now more respectful to her? Why can't people stand up
>for themselves without cursing and yelling at someone else? Being able
>to yell and curse at someone does not make you a hero, a twelve year old
>could do that. Why couldn't she have said that she is disappointed that
>the doctor's office couldn't or wouldn't help her and that due to their
>lack of concern, she is going to switch doctors? That would have made a
>far more powerful statement than yelling and cursing, believe me. And
>she would still have her dignity and pride that someone else's bad
>behavior did not influence her behavior negatively.
>
>And finally, this forum has rules and one of them is no cursing. Please
>respect other people and follow the rules instead of incouraging them to
>be broken.
>
>At Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Anonymous wrote:
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>>Candace, I totally understand what you are saying. Anonymous, I
>>respectfully disagree with you for a couple of reasons. 1) Just because
>>your dad got addicted to pain pills, that should not color your judgment
>>of others or be your personal cause. I feel for what you and your
>>family went through, but it's really someone else's fight in this case.
>>Candace was doing the right thing - if she wanted to get the pills, no
>>matter what the reason, she would have simply gone to any street corner
>>in the nearest city and had them, or ordered them online from Canada a
>>long time ago! She did the right thing - contacted her doctor to ask for
>>medication. And they shunned her and tried to bounce her back and
>>forth. Funny, they don't bounce you around when you owe a payment or
>>when they can bill your insurance, do they? and the other reason I
>>disagree with you is 2) The doctor and his office are NOT concerned
>>about her. They want to inconvenience her by making her run back and
>>forth every single time she needs an rX (even for BCP's - what, you are
>>supposed to go every three months for a full exam?) for an appointment.
>>Regular appointments ARE necessary and SHOULD be scheduled, but I think
>>half the time, doctors insist you come in just so they can bill your
>>insurance or you for the full cost of an office visit, even if their
>>contact is limited to "Hey - here's your rX." I used to stand in the
>>doorway of my orthopedic surgeon's office on my crutches so that he
>>could not escape me, and would have to answer my questions! Otherwise, I
>>would have seen him for 35 seconds and a $150 bill.
>>
>>Candace, keep giving that office heck! Personally, I was not offended by
>>your language. I have felt the same way but never had the chutzpah to
>>say it quite that eloquently. Let's face it - we've all said the S
>>word, heard it in the mall, in the movies, wherever. For once, it was
>>not used gratuitously, but rather used for impact and to make a point.
>>It's ok for the office worker to say "We can't do anything for you" but
>>not ok for Candace to say "Hey, that's not ok?"Sorry, but I suffer
>>enough as a woman with this disease, I am not going to be some office
>>worker's doormat. Anonymous, you may get more bees with honey as the
>>proverb says, but sometimes, when the honey you emit starts backing up
>>and making you sick, you have to get out your stinger and nail the SOBs.
>>Go get 'em Candace. You are my hero of the day.
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