Re: 'Permanents' as in permanent waves in hair - Did you get these? Any possible link to Endo?
From: Michelle (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Oct 16 21:07:29 2003
Compassion,
I fully agree with you 100%. I did have perms when I was very young,
when the endo started, but I sort of doubt that is why I have endo, but
I was no breastfed at all either, just to let you know. I'm sorry to
disagree with a manager or whatever, but we are all entitles to our
opinion, and mine is that is the water we are drinking, ,my
endocronoligist also agrees wtih me, he has a chart in his office of
girls and women who have endo and where they are from pegged and guess
what most of the pagges up on the wall on the map are around the great
lakes, I mean most women in ontario have some kind of problems, either
endo, fibroids, friboymaligia (sp) or PCOP, IBS, IC. I mean come on it
has to be coming from somewhere and NO ONE can convince me other wise,
and maybe the pollution in the air from factories, cars exhaust and
stuff could also cause it, who knows for sure, but I have my mind made
up about the water.
--
Michelle I.
At Thu, 16 Oct 2003, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>
>I disagree. I'm sick of doctors treating the symptoms without finding
>the cause. If the cause of endo were found, we wouldn't be in this
>mess. Well, I guess we still would be, but our daughters would not. I
>believe that environmental issues are a factor in the cause of endo.
>Environmental pollution is a cause of a lot of reproductive
>abnormalities. When these abnormalities are found in wild animals, it
>is not always that 100% of the population experience the effects, but a
>portion of them do. There could be a genetic predisposition to being
>sensitive to environmental pollutants. Isn't it an immune deficiency? I
>wonder how many women who were not breastfed develop endo. I guess
>that's a good question to ask. Do any of you know if you were not
>breastfed? I know that has something to do with building an immune
>system. I know that I was not breastfed. Just a thought.
>
>I don't think perms are the problem, but there are definitely toxins in
>our environment that are causing a lot of problems healthwise. To rule
>them out is dangerous. I don't want to treat the symptoms without also
>treating the cause. The main goal should be to find out what the hell
>causes endo so that future women do not need to suffer. That I think is
>the main problem with people. They want to just focus on themselves. I
>would rather have endo today and focus on finding the cause than to have
>my children go through this later on. Sure we should still try to find
>ways of treating our pain, but I would rather be in pain than see future
>generations suffer. My two cents. I hope this email doesn't have an
>offensive tone. I know emails can come across as being rude, but I
>honestly don't mean to be. I also noticed that you are the Managing
>Editor, so I'm sure you have read more than I have, but I work with
>Environmental Health folks who study the effects of pollution and toxins
>on health and I fully believe in the negative impacts of toxics and
>pollution on our bodies. :)
>
>At Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Lea Harth, wrote:
>>
>>Think about all the women (and men) who get perms every day.... now
>>think about the number of women who have endo... I would think that one
>>does not have anything to do with the other. Same goes for a lot of the
>>environmental things that are thought to be causes, the theories just
>>don't hold water or nearly every single female on the planet would have
>>endo.
>>
>>A genetic predisposition to develop endo triggered by some specific set
>>of circumstances is the most likely root of it but truly, I bet if the
>>time and money were available it could be traced back to the beginning
>>of mankind so I think a better focus and target would be in finding a
>>reliable, safe and affordable method of treating it.
>>
>>It's become pretty obvious from what I've read that a complete and total
>>cure may not be possible, nor prevention, but then the same can be said
>>for a lot of diseases/conditions/illnesses. Focusing the research on
>>helping women with endo lead successful lives should be the main goal.
>>And by successful lives I mean being able to wake up in the morning and
>>go about your day without the dopey feeling from narcotic painkillers or
>>chemical concoctions with side-effects just as unbearable as the endo
>>itself is.
>>
>>At Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Virginia wrote:
>>>
>>>My sister and I both have endo. I also have a twin sister, who does not
>>>have endo. I have been thinking about what was different about our
>>>childhood that could have possibly lead to 2 of us getting endo, while
>>>my twin sister remaining endo-free.
>>>
>>>The 2 of us that have endo got perms as teenagers. Any chance that this
>>>could be a potential cause? Sounds crazy, I am sure, but who really
>>>knows.....
>>>
>>>Can anyone else identify with this at all?????
>>
>>--
>>Lea Harth, Managing Editor
>>OBGYN.net
>>
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