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Re: Pain Med post Lap question --how do you get all this meds?
From: Jennifer (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Oct 9 15:09:13 2003
At Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michelle wrote:
>From Jennifer...
Not much concern of addiction since it has been less than a week, and
post lap my primary concern is controlling the pain to a point where I
can sleep, function, etc. My general understanding is that percocet
should be for break-through pain, something like oxycontin is for a
longer lasting time release pain killer. And the dose can be adjusted.
Best to work with the doctor through doses/mixing.
Prior to this lap I went thru a period where I resisted painkillers b/c
I was afraid of addiction, I wasted days... hours awake with pain,
finally caving in to a pill and moderate relief. This fear was
increased my by prior doctor's concern over my taking pills just
ultracet and/or vicophrofen. And I felt that he didn't believe I was in
real pain, in fact he wanted to see me next time I was in so much
pain... can't even move in that scenario so... I think the bottom line
in working through the condition is finding a doctor who will work with
you. I feel that is one saving grace at this point. The new doctor is
a specialist, he can see by the way I walk etc, what type of pain level
I am having. I don't feel like I am whining, etc... I think you need a
new doctor who will listen to you, work with you and respect you. I did
try another specialist my general doctor had referred me to but I found
him so indifferent & insensitive, I never went back. It is enough of a
struggle to manage with endo, much less have a doctor who is not
particularly helpful or leads you to believe it is in your head. Doctors
will have enough experience to suggest different combinations, meds that
might be best for your type of pain.
Other on percocet..honestly it doesn't do alot for me. I have been
taking about 10 / day which is why they are increasing oxycontin to
decrease percocet. And if you are always playing catch-up with the
pain, you really won't have relief which is what the doctor/nurse have
explained. It may be worth trying NEURONTIN as well... I often look at
meds on webmd and I check with the pharmacist if I am concerned. At
this point, I am fortunate to trust my doctor and not worry about
amts/mixing. And my body is telling me it is best. Try to find a new
doctor to work with you on the pain front...
>You see at one point years ago my gyno was addicted to prescription
>drugs, they gave him his license back because he probably does do them
>anymore but I can walk in to his office and the first thing he says is
>do you want more percocet or morphine, i get 200 pills at a time and I
>can also get demerol but I was addicted to it over a year ago and got
>rehad help. You asked how we know we arent going to overdose my body
>knows how much I can take, last night I did take 4 morphines and 2
>demerol cause i couldnt sleep the pain was so bad, BUT that was the
>first time I took demerol since my drug problem and man it felt soo good
>but i"m dumping it today dont want any old habits to creap up. I take
>about 4 Percocets while I'm at work not many people know except the
>staff which I'm very open and honest to and even to my boss and
>supervisor they all know that I'm on narcotics, but its either that or
>i'll have to quit my job which right now is not an option for me. And I
>know which pain med's you can mix, anything that is from the Opiot
>family meaning, Percocet, Demerol and Morphine you can mix those ones,
>because they are all refined Heroin that's why they feel so good when
>you take them, and its so hard to get off them when you feel you want to
>be done with narcotics, I know that if I ever get better I would
>definitely go back to rehad again just to get it all out of my system
>because withdrawls from these drugs are killers, I wont even tell you
>what I went through trying to get off demerol it was hard lets just say
>that.
>
>Anyways all you can do is ask your doctor for pain med's either he says
>yes or no, or you could go to a different doctor if you think that might
>work but for people with endo I think we deserve whatever kind of pain
>med's we want because we suffer, I know alot of women who suffer really
>bad, and so do I very badly, its a horrible feeling to be in this much
>pain all the time.
>If you have any other questions for me feel free to ask I am an open
>book and I dont mind answering anything.
>
>--
> Michelle I.
>
>At Thu, 9 Oct 2003, anonymous wrote:
>>
>>I have severe endo pain and I would like to know how you women get all
>>this pain meds? I am taking percocet, but I only can take so much and
>>when I'm in the most pain! I was wandering how yuou get it, my gyn will
>>not give me anything except ultracet but I can get a prescription from
>>my family Doctor for percocet (which I dont think I could live without
>>sometimes when the pain is so bad) Also, how do you know how much to
>>mix? Are you afraid of overdose? I have been at the point of mixing
>>percocet with other pain meds, but I'm afraid it might hurt me. Please
>>, I'm really serious, When the percocet want take all the pain away ,
>>has anyone got a suggestion on what I could help it along with? Thanks
>>in advance!!
>>Desparately in pain and will try anything.
>>
>>t Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Michelle wrote:
>>>>Michelle,
>>>
>>>Thank you ... I do know I am functioning much better on them than not,
>>>in fact I know I wasted lots of time pre-lap not taking the pills
>>>required... and it is reasurring to know others find it necessary to
>>>take more serious painkillers as well. .. And that you still have pain
>>>break through... Sorry you are still suffering at this degree... why
>>>no surgery for a year? did he get it all? are you trying hormones as
>>>well or can you not tolerate them? about to embark on yasmin. -- any
>>>experience there?
>>>thanks so much, take care,
>>>> Jennifer,
>>>>
>>>>I'd just like to say that no I dont think your over due'ing it with
>>>>med's because I take more then you do. In a day in the morning I take 1
>>>>Vioxx, 1 Paxil, 2 Percocets, in the afternoon I take another 2
>>>>Percocets, in the evenings I take another 2 Percocets sometimes, and
>>>>sometimes 4 morphine 4/mg each. Then I take a Progestrone pill, plus
>>>>Clonazapan (sleeping pill). And then in the middle of the night if I
>>>>wake up in pain I either take another morphine or 2 more Percocets.
>>>>Now that's alot of drugs girl, I think your ok for now. Once you get to
>>>>takeing this much stuff I'd have to worry, but my doctor wont do another
>>>>lap on me because I just had one done 6 months ago, he wont do another
>>>>until its been at least a year he says. Plus I have a job on top of
>>>>this where I work 30 hours a week. Imagine going to work on these kinds
>>>>of drugs, but I do it everyday, my boss knows because I'm honest with
>>>>her about how much drugs I take I work in retail with customers so
>>>>sometimes I'm dozzy but for the most part I'm ok, I've been on the
>>>>Percocets now for a year, everyday non-stop and the morphine for 5-6
>>>>months non-stop. I would not say I'm addicted to either of them yet,
>>>>although if I stopped taking them my body I'm sure would go into
>>>>withdrawls I have no doubt, but I just dont feel like I HAVE to take
>>>>them, I only take them when needed, somedays I feel not bad and only
>>>>take 2 Percocets and 2 morphine in a day and that's a really good day.
>>>>Anyways I just wanted you to know that there was someone else out there
>>>>that takes a ton of medicine and still with all those drugs gets no real
>>>>pain relief. The morphine usually does nothing, now the Percocets they
>>>>work pretty well, I must admit.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways if you have any questions feel free to ask.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> Michelle I.
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Jennifer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a lap last Friday, my recovery is slow at best -- and it hasn't
>>>>>been so smooth. The doctor did alot of work and my bowels were meshed
>>>>>to other organs, etc. so I should be sore for a while. Also active
>>>>>endo throughout pelvic area & on u. ligaments, cyst, etc. Kept all
>>>>>female organs remarkably. Adhesions & endo both lasered & excised. I
>>>>>have been upped on my pain meds but still have episodes of severe,
>>>>>debilitating pain. I don't understand how I can have so much pain on
>>>>>the meds... has anyone else taken the following and still had pain
>>>>>break through...
>>>>>Neurontin 100 mg 2x/day, just started Monday...
>>>>>Anaprox 550 mg 2x/day
>>>>>Percocet, 5mg/325 2 every 4 hours as needed (averaging 10/day)
>>>>>Oxycontin 10mg 2 every 12 hours, may move to 2 every 8 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>1. I can't believe I am not nauseas, or dizzy
>>>>>2. I still have some very severe pain which basically paralyzes me...
>>>>>3. No fever, no chills, no vomiting.. limited appetite
>>>>>Is there another pain med that might replace this stuff, am I just being
>>>>>impatient? My catheter is finally out as of today, which is a huge
>>>>>relief. Anyway, I just want to know if I have gone neurotic or if this
>>>>>is normal. The doctor has been good, so I don't have any issues there.
>>>>>Just starting to worry ... Maybe this is normal while my bowels
>>>>>readjust... anyone with similiar experience who can offer something of
>>>>>a timeframe for recovery...even some reasurrance. I can't sleep thru
>>>>>the night yet, just a few hours at a time (3 - 4) and I would think I
>>>>>would be knocked out on these meds. Prior to lap just took vicoprofen &
>>>>>ultracet for pain so shouldn't have much resistance to pain meds. On
>>>>>morphine while at hospital for 2 nights. Thanks for listening and
>>>>>sharing.
>>>>>Jennifer
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jennifer
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jennifer
>>>
--
Jennifer
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