Re: ENDO digest 5517
From: Jason (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed May 28 15:00:21 2003
Lori,
Thank you for responding to me. I am still waiting on my doctor to call
back today. I am going to talk to him about it more detaled. Thanks again.
Carrie
>----- Original Message -----
From: anonymous@obgyn.net
To: "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:16 AM
Subject: ENDO digest 5517
> ENDO Digest 5517
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: Question
> by kricket1@c-gate.net
> 2) Re: Hysterectomie or nupron
> by foxmoorefarm@msn.com (Lori)
> 3) Lupron for 2 years
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Lori)
> 4) Lupron
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Lori)
> 5) Re: Question......... too much pain?
> by stoto@chubb.com
> 6) Re: Question here help! - to Portia
> by "Portia L. Mason" <MSCELIE@sbcglobal.net>
> 7) Re: endo and insurance
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Leslie)
> 8) lump on vagina wall
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> 9) Re: Ladies
> by <kvaleriano@ciecka.com>
> 10) Re: ENDO digest 5514
> by <kvaleriano@ciecka.com>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: kricket1@c-gate.net
> To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Question
> Message-ID: <200305280509.h4S59hv06579@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> At Tue, 27 May 2003, Kelly wrote:
> >
> >Hello Ladies,
> >It's me again and I'm just wondering somthing. I am taking Lupron Depot
> >for 6 months and am on the 2nd shot now. What happens if I get pg while
> >on this? Do I stop taking it or what? Please I need some answers.
> >
> >--
> >Kelly Wessel
> >
>
> Kelly,
> I wish that I knew. My doctor did advise me to use birth control
> methods during my treatment (I, too, am in my second month) but my
> thinking is, well, I've not gotten pregnant in all these years, I'm most
> likely not going to get that way now. Probably not the best way to look
> at it, but hey, it makes me not worry.
>
> --
> Hugs,
> Katy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:14:00 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: foxmoorefarm@msn.com (Lori)
> To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Hysterectomie or nupron
> Message-ID: <200305280714.h4S7E0G18945@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> At Tue, 27 May 2003, Jason wrote:
> >
> >Hi I am 22 years old i have had surgery to get rid of my endo, pollups,
and cyst last october. Now my doctor says my endo has come back. He wants
me to go on nupron and i am scared of the side effects. I have been
seriously thinking of just doing a hysterectomy cause i am just tired and
want to be better. I am still trying to make my desision. Please tell me
what you think. Carrie
>
> Hi Carrie,
> Hopefully my story will help. I chose the opposite way. I cannot get
> myself to do surgery. My doctor told me that the only other option was
> Lupron injections. I agreed to try it, because I am stage IV, and the
> prescription pain meds did not even help me. I am now going on my 2nd
> year of Lupron 3 month injectons. It is wonderful. I am 98% pain free,
> and the only side effect I have is hot flashes, and a 5 lb. weight
> gain. Birth control pills made me miserable, put the Lupron is my
> lifesaver. I am starting bone density tests because of being on it for
> so long. My general doc, who has delt with endo. herself, said not to
> get the hysterectomy. She said there are so many problems afterward
> that it isn't worth it if I can keep my Lupron. I'd give the Lupron a
> try first. Its saving my life and my sanity.
>
> Good luck!!
> Lori
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:22:07 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (Lori)
> To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Lupron for 2 years
> Message-ID: <200305280722.h4S7M7O26447@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> I am new, and was wondering if anyone else has been on Lupron for over a
> year? I am just going on my 2nd year. It is the most wonderful thing I
> have ever done. I know it has its drawbacks, and i am starting bone
> density tests in a week. But I just can't do surgery, and this was the
> only other option offered to me. Has anyone had bad effects from
> Lupron? I get mild hot flashes, and a 5lb. weight gain, but it is worth
> it, and much better than the intense pain that I had. It has taken 98%
> of the pain away. Is there any other options out there?
> thanks,
> Lori
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 03:03:01 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (Lori)
> To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Lupron
> Message-ID: <200305280803.h4S831x17594@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Its me again. I just went through and read alot of the messages about
> the Lupron, and wow! alot of you girls are having terrible side effects
> on it! I did have increased pain and symptons the first 3 months, but
> after that it was like having my life back. Does anyone know if you
> will gain back the bone density, if you lose any, once your off of
> Lupron? I am starting bone density tests next week, and add back
> therapy. But I've heard some people say that you do gain the BD back,
> and others say you don't. It really worries me. Anyone else hear
> anything?
> God Bless,
> Lori
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 08:07:48 -0400
> ------------------------------
> From: stoto@chubb.com
> To: endo@obgyn.net
> Subject: Re: Question......... too much pain?
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>
> Hi Rachel,
>
> Thanks for responding, I have a very busy day today, but i hope you have a
> good day. It so comforting to know I am not alone.
> I will write more later.
>
> Suzy
>
> jellybeanbutterfl
> y@yahoo.com To: Multiple
recipients of list ENDO
> (Rachel)
<endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent by: cc:
> endo@obgyn.net Subject: Re:
Question......... too much pain?
>
> 05/27/03 05:38 PM
> Please respond to
> endo
>
> Suzy, I have the same problem. At times, my pain is so bad that I can
> barely function, but I have no choice but to keep pressing on. I was at
> work today, had sharp pains at my ovary and pain radiating down to my
> calf. I did manage to work out this morning, which made it worse, but
> I'm still making myself work out. I get sick of feeling like a lazy
> lump just as much as I get sick of the pain. At least there's one I can
> get rid of. I just wish exercise didn't make the pain worse. I wish I
> could get through a day of work without having pain, hot flashes and
> sweats. But, I don't think it's ever going to happen for me. I hope
> you're well today.
>
> Rachel
>
> At Tue, 27 May 2003, Suzy wrote:
> >
> >Question........... Is any out there is sooo much pain that they
> >cannnot even function in thier everyday life. I cant think at work the
> >pain is soooooooo bad forget sex, and boy I am super cranky.
> >
> >--
> >Suzy
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 05:22:30 -0700
> ------------------------------
> From: "Portia" <MSCELIE@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <endo@obgyn.net>,
> "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Subject: Re: Question here help! - to Portia
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> Oh god it scared me..
> But I am still having trouble.. Not as bad as it was.. The stool softener
> seems to be helping some.. I may need to check in with Doc so I can make
> sure everything is alright..
> This long wait is making things worse in more ways then one..
> Portia/hugs Thanks for everyone's support..
>
> Don't worry be happy!! :-)
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kricket1@c-gate.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Question here help! - to Portia
>
> > WOW, I am so glad that you had the guts to post this thread. I, too,
> > have similar troubles at times, and the medications for pain can make it
> > so much worse, as they tend to cause constipation. And, oh I'm sorry,
> > I've already forgotten who, mentioned the leg pain, I can SOOO relate to
> > that too. I've even wondered if I had something else going on causing
> > that! I wasn't for sure if it was related. I thought it was, but to
> > know that someone else has the same pain, makes me feel less afraid of
> > it.
> >
> > At Tue, 27 May 2003, Portia wrote:
> > >
> > >Its a stool softener...
> > >I took one so I don't know how often to take them.. I asked the lady
> since I
> > >ma blind and can't read the directions on the box.. Does anyone know
> > >anything about this over the counter drug??
> > >Portia/hugs
> > >Don't worry be happy!! :-)
> > >
>> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Rachel" <jellybeanbutterfly@yahoo.com>
> > >To: "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:03 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Question here help! - to Portia
> > >
> > >> Portia, I've been having a lot of pain lately too, from my down ovary
> > >> down through my calf. The pain in my ovary is like a very sharp
> > >> pinching, and the pain down my leg is a dull ache. I swear, today I
> > >> thought I was going to lose my mind. I'm on continuous birth control
> > >> pills, and having a period every 4 months, which works out to about 6
> > >> packs of pills before a break. 5 weeks ago I had a period, and I
felt
> > >> amazing from the time I had that period until I finished the first 3
> > >> weeks of my new pack. NOW, i'm halfway through my second pack, and
> I've
> > >> been feeling like hell ever since the second pack started. I'm
totally
> > >> at a loss. I just don't know what to do. Can you please explain
what
> > >> Colace is? I've never heard of it. If it helps you, I'd LOVE to try
> it.
> > >> As much as I fight it, endo still controls my life, and I really need
> to
> > >> find something else to fall back on. Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> Rachel
> > >>
> > >> At Tue, 27 May 2003, Portia wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks so much.. I was feeling real sharp pains real bad cramps in
my
> > >right
> > >> >side into my thigh.. About a 10 on the pains scale..
> > >> >It was like spasms.. I went to the pharmacy and on a recommendation
of
> > >> >someone else bought some Colace..
> > >> >Just took one tablet a half hour ago, it seems to be working but the
> pain
> > >is
> > >> >still there..
> > >> >Goodness.. It had me in tears it was so bad..
> > >> >Portia/hugs
> > >> >Don't worry be happy!! :-)
> > >> >
> > >
>> > >>> >>----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "Rachel" <jellybeanbutterfly@yahoo.com>
> > >> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:42 PM
> > >> >Subject: Re: Question here help!
> > >> >
> > >> >> Portia, try getting more soluable fiber into your diet everyday.
> > >> >> Sometimes I have the same problems you have no matter how well I
> eat,
> > >> >> but it does help. Apples, kiwi, cucumber, tomatoes, and berries
all
> > >> >> help me a lot. I go to a fruit market once a week and stock up on
> all
> > >I
> > >> >> can eat for a week. I buy a lot so it forces me to eat it all so
I
> > >> >> don't waste food or money, and it also helps me lose weight. One
> thing
> > >> >> I like to do is eat fresh fruit or veggies before I eat my meal,
> then
> > >> >> save room from my meal for fruit and veggies after. I've noticed
> that
> > >> >> it helps move cheese and meat through my body faster than if I
don't
> > >eat
> > >> >> them, or when I eat just one serving. I hope this helps.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Rachel
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At Tue, 27 May 2003, Portia wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Nature
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Hi Portia here from California.. I have to ask a question, but I
> don't
> > >> >want to come off gross or anything like that..
> > >> >> >I this morning have had a pretty bad BM and it was a very large
> piece
> > >> >that took some time coming out... gross telling this. Uh, anyway, I
> sat
> > >> >there for a good fifteen mins or longer and had a hard time of
moving
> it
> > >> >out.. It made my pain in my lower abdominal area more painful.. So,
I
> > >didn't
> > >> >want to aggravate it more..
> > >> >> >Once it came out it was a real relief for me.. This is one of
about
> > >two I
> > >> >have had in the last day or so..
> > >> >> >Has anyone expericed this problem?? Do you have any suggestion on
> what
> > >I
> > >> >can do to keep this from happening and find a way to break it up
> better?
> > >> >> >Portia/hugs
> > >> >> >Don't worry be happy!! :-)
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Hugs,
> > Katy
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 07:24:20 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (Leslie)
> To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: endo and insurance
> Message-ID: <200305281224.h4SCOKx32737@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> See if they can recommend you to another practice. It is a shame they
> won't work with you. My father went through the same thing, he got laid
> off right before his surgery on his brain tumor and the doc did the
> surgery early. See if they can recommend you to another practice that
> can do it sooner and transfer your records. I can't see another GYN
> doing it unless they have discussed it with the other doc. It is hard
> to believe that they can't get you in sooner. They either don't have
> enough surgery days scheduled or they are too busy. My doc is in a
> practice and he has 3 surgery days a week so I can basically get in
> within a week or two if need be. Hope you find something that works.
> Have you talked with your doctor or just the office staff. Your doc
> might be willing to work with you a little more. Good Luck
>
> At Tue, 27 May 2003, Judy wrote:
> >
> >Hi my name is Judy and I am 31 years old with 3 children. I am in a
> >bind.I am going in for a hysterectomy in august of this year. My app.
> >was made in april. I am going to try and make this as short as
> >possible. My husband is laid off from a union, he has been since
> >december 2002. We are suppose to keep our benifits. I have heard some
> >get theirs cut off after a certain amount of time. I told my doctors
> >office and they say say there is nothing they can do to get me in
> >sooner. unless there is a cancellation.Do you think they did everything
> >they could to help me? It is a group practice, I would take any of the
> >docs.Thank you, I am frustrated. Judy
>
> --
> Leslie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 07:36:20 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: lump on vagina wall
> Message-ID: <200305281236.h4SCaKj12522@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> while inserting a tampon i noticed a lump on the back or wall of the
> vagina it is a rather hard lump about the size of a quarter, it is not
> painful but I have never noticed it there before, like i stated , it is
> at the opening, under the skin where a tampon would be asserted into the
> vagina.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:11:12 -0400
> ------------------------------
> From: <kvaleriano@ciecka.com>
> To: <endo@obgyn.net>
> Subject: Re: Ladies
> Message-ID: <000701c3251a$9ea385c0$0e01a8c0@vciecka>
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> I to am new to this forum and do not know very much. I read all the sites
> and just try to take in as much as I can. If I can contriibute some info I
> do but otherwise I am just learning. I apologize If I upset anyone.
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: anonymous <anonymous@medispecialty.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Ladies
>
> > At Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Jillian wrote:
> > >
> > >I think I might be a culprit of not responding to
> > >e-mails, but i try to respond only when it will help
> > >or be beneficial...I dont want to cause spam. I hope I
> > >dont offend anyone, I mean I read all the posts, there
> > >are just some things i cannot comment or help on due
> > >to lack of knowledge. Just my thoguhts. =)
> > >--- Amy <anonymous@obgyn.net> wrote:
> > >> At Fri, 11 Apr 2003, kdrury wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm very sorry you feel this way. This is the
> > >> second time I've been on this
> > >> >post. About 3 years I'd come here for some advice
> > >> but never got any and quit
> > >> >and now I'm back to see if anyone would help this
> > >> time. I met a wonderful
> > >> >friend about 1 or 2 months ago and we e-mail each
> > >> other everyday and
> > >> >sometimes more. I can talk to her about anything.
> > >> She is so supportive and
> > >> >lets me vent. She is the only one that cared enough
> > >> to write me back and she
> > >> >understands what this damn disease does to a women.
> > >> >So, what I'm trying to say is if you would like to
> > >> talk to me I'd try to
> > >> >help give you some info. Sorry you felt left out.
> > >> I've been there too.
> > >> >Here's to better days.
> > >> >Your endo friend,
> > >> >Kimberly
> > >> >
> > >
>> > >>> >>----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: Quite <anonymous@medispecialty.com>
> > >> >To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO
> > >> <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > >> >Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:59 PM
> > >> >Subject: Ladies
> > >> >
> > >> >> Has anyone noticed that with a select few of the
> > >> participants on this
> > >> >> forum-
> > >> >> A post manifest and then is pulled within a
> > >> matter of hours?
> > >> >> By the next day, all respondents posts (replies
> > >> to those select few)
> > >> >> have been pulled as well?
> > >> >> I have spoken to the administrators (a few weeks
> > >> ago) who seem to be
> > >> >> completely oblivious to this. They tell me that
> > >> I and the "others" are
> > >> >> welcome. However, whoever it is that has
> > >> complete editorial control-
> > >> >> seems to continue to pull posts on a regular
> > >> basis. The censorship is
> > >> >> astounding. I have not posted anything
> > >> innapropriate or inflammatory-
> > >> >> yet my posts, as well as others, keep
> > >> "disappearing". Only wondering...
> > >> >> I would like to talk endo- but hate that I am
> > >> hindered in doing so.
> > >> >> I wonder if this post will disappear as well. If
> > >> so- I will use another
> > >> >> IP address and maybe that should spare me the
> > >> frustration.
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> I have not taken offense to this but I to have
> > >> noticed the same on this site.
> > >> A few people have written to which I thank but it
> > >> seems like those who have
> > >> been here for a long time do get there questions and
> > >> concerns addressed much
> > >> faster. I am not complaining I have enjoyed
> > >> partisipating non the less but I
> > >> could see when you are REALLY in need of support and
> > >> not responded to it does
> > >> hurt. Peace.
> > >>
> > >
> > >http://tax.yahoo.com
> >
>
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:18:20 -0400
> ------------------------------
> From: <kvaleriano@ciecka.com>
> To: <endo@obgyn.net>
> Subject: Re: ENDO digest 5514
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> Carrie,
> How long have you been trying to get pregnant? I tried for almost two
years
> also. I have stage 4 endo with adhesions and a mass on my right ovary. I
did
> a lapo surgery and then clomid right away and got pregnant in 11 months.
I
> do know how it feels and it is very frustrating,. My husband also felt the
> same way....and it was our first child together. IF there is anything that
I
> can help you with just let me know. My girlfirend had a fertility issue
and
> had 2 beautiful girls...i have found and heard that clomid has been
> succesful to many.
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jason <JayAndCare@hotmail.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: ENDO digest 5514
>
> > Hi I wrote earlier that i was considering taking depo nupron or just
> doing
> > a hysterectomy. My husband and I have been trying to get pregnate again
> for
> > the last two years or so and we have had no luck. After we found out I
> had
> > endo we thought after the lypo we could get pregnate and we have had no
> > luck. I have found out it is back and the doctor still thinks i should
do
> > the nupron so i could get pregnate. But at the same time he says while
on
> > this shot i can t get pregnate or it would be bad i dont understand why
I
> am
> > doing this then. And if i do this shot i still dont know if i will be
> able
> > to get pregnate. My husband is very frustrated and has decided he
doesnt
> > want another child because of all this. I am at the point that i want
to
> > be better but i might regret not giving pregnancy one more shot. But
deep
> > down i dont think i will get pregnate. My doctor also says i would need
> to
> > take clomid to get pregnate but my husband doesnt think it is safe so he
> > doesnt want me to do that. Any advice would be nice. Carrie
>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <endo@obgyn.net>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ENDO" <endo@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:23 PM
> > Subject: ENDO digest 5514
> >
> > > ENDO Digest 5514
> > >
> > > Topics covered in this issue include:
> > >
> > > 1) Re: dropped bladder
> > > by Tamara Mohler <simplytam@yahoo.com>
> > > 2) Question here help!
> > > by "Portia L. Mason" <MSCELIE@sbcglobal.net>
> > > 3) Re: excision
> > > by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Lisa Snow)
> > > 4) I Need Your Cream In My Pie!
> > > by "Michelle Potts" <TeenDream@Hotmail.com>
> > > 5) Hysterectomie or nupron
> > > by "Jason and Carrie" <JayAndCare@hotmail.com>
> > > 6) Re: Hysterectomies and endo somethings to consider!!!!
> > > by ragarrett@bellsouth.net (rg)
> > > 7) Re: Hysterectomie or nupron
> > > by stoto@chubb.com
> > > 8) Re: i HAVE HAD MY PERIOD FOR 41 DAYS NOW????
> > > by fior_gaelach@yahoo.com
> > > 9) Re: Pregnant-endo pain and blood loss
> > > by fior_gaelach@yahoo.com
> > > 10) Question................ too much pain?
> > > by Stoto@chubb.com (Suzy)
> > > 11) Re: Teenagers in pain(execessive)
> > > by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Ashli)
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 00:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > From: Tamara <simplytam@yahoo.com>
> > > To: endo@obgyn.net
> > > Subject: Re: dropped bladder
> > > Message-ID: <20030527074219.89333.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="0-190774609-1054021339=:88766"
> > >
> > > --0-190774609-1054021339=:88766
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > HI Iam 24 years old and when i was 22 I had went to the doctors for my
> > bladder , he did an exam on me and said that for having 3 babies my
> bladder
> > has done some dropping So please have your doc find out want is causeing
> > your bladder to drop. Hope you start to fell well. Bye Tamara
> > >
> > > jen <anonymous@obgyn.net> wrote:At Wed, 25 Apr 2001, rainey wrote:
> > > >
> > > >i've been checking various messages about the bladder and i haven't
> > > >found anyone who has what i have.. my geo told me this week that i
had
> > > >to stop lifting any heavy objects because my bladder was dropping and
> if
> > > >i continued lifthing that i would eventually have to have surgery to
> > > >have my bladder surgically supported. i was wondering if anyone else
> > > >had/has this and is there not an exercise that would strengthen the
> > > >walls/lining supporting the bladder....? i just don't understand that
> > > >all of a sudden my bladder is dropping..
> > >
> > > I also have a fallen bladder. My doctor said it was caused from child
> > > birth (I have 3 children). He said there is no muscle that supports
the
> > > bladder underneath to keep it from falling into the vagina. So,
> > > therefore kegels are not that effective. I was given two options.. a
> > > sling, which he will attach to a bone, that holds the bladder in place
> > > and a plastic device (can't remember the name) that you insert into
the
> > > vagina that does the same thing. For me, I am choosing the sling
> > > because I am very active the plastic device would be very
uncomfortable
> > > for me in my very busy everday life. I hope this has been helpful.
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
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> > >
> > > <DIV>HI Iam 24 years old and when i was 22 I had went to the doctors
for
> > my bladder , he did an exam on me and said that for having 3 babies my
> > bladder has done some dropping So please have your doc find out want is
> > causeing your bladder to drop. Hope you start to fell
> > well. Bye
> > Tamara<BR><BR><B><I>jen <anonymous@obgyn.net></I></B> wrote:
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> > #1010ff 2px solid">At Wed, 25 Apr 2001, rainey
wrote:<BR>><BR>>i've
> > been checking various messages about the bladder and i
> haven't<BR>>found
> > anyone who has what i have.. my geo told me this week that i
had<BR>>to
> > stop lifting any heavy objects because my bladder was dropping and
> > if<BR>>i continued lifthing that i would eventually have to have
> surgery
> > to<BR>>have my bladder surgically supported. i was wondering if
anyone
> > else<BR>>had/has this and is there not an exercise that would
> strengthen
> > the<BR>>walls/lining supporting the bladder....? i just don't
> understand
> > that<BR>>all of a sudden my bladder is dropping..<BR><BR>I also have
a
> > fallen bladder. My doctor said it was caused from child<BR>birth (I have
3
> > children). He said there is no muscle that supports the<BR>bladder
> > underneath to keep it from falling into the vagina. So,<BR>therefore
> kegels
> > are not that effective. I was give!
> > > n two options.. a<BR>sling, which he will attach to a bone, that holds
> the
> > bladder in place<BR>and a plastic device (can't remember the name) that
> you
> > insert into the<BR>vagina that does the same thing. For me, I am
choosing
> > the sling<BR>because I am very active the plastic device would be very
> > uncomfortable<BR>for me in my very busy everday life. I hope this has
been
> >
>
> > New Yahoo! Search</a> - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > > --0-190774609-1054021339=:88766--
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 04:03:22 -0700
> > > ------------------------------
> > > From: "Portia" <MSCELIE@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: <endo@obgyn.net>
> > > Subject: Question here help!
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> > > Nature
> > >
> > > Hi Portia here from California.. I have to ask a question, but I don't
=
> > > want to come off gross or anything like that..
> > > I this morning have had a pretty bad BM and it was a very large piece
=
> > > that took some time coming out... gross telling this. Uh, anyway, I
sat
> > > > there for a good fifteen mins or longer and had a hard time of moving
it
> > > > out.. It made my pain in my lower abdominal area more painful.. So, I
=
> > > didn't want to aggravate it more..
> > > Once it came out it was a real relief for me.. This is one of about
two
> > > > I have had in the last day or so..
> > > Has anyone expericed this problem?? Do you have any suggestion on what
I
> > > > can do to keep this from happening and find a way to break it up
better?
> > > Portia/hugs
> > > Don't worry be happy!! :-)
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=
> > > don't want
> > > to come off gross or anything like that..</DIV>
> > > <DIV>I this morning have had a pretty bad BM and it was a very large > > > piece that
> > > took some time coming out... gross telling this. Uh, anyway, I sat
there
> > > > for a
> > > good fifteen mins or longer and had a hard time of moving it out.. It
=
> > > made my
> > > pain in my lower abdominal area more painful.. So, I didn't want to > > > aggravate it
> > > more..</DIV>
> > > <DIV>Once it came out it was a real relief for me.. This is one of
about
> > > > two I
> > > have had in the last day or so..</DIV>
> > > <DIV>Has anyone expericed this problem?? Do you have any suggestion on
=
> > > what I
> > > can do to keep this from happening and find a way to break it up > > > better?</DIV>
> > > <DIV>Portia/hugs</DIV>
> > > <DIV>Don't worry be happy!! :-)</DIV></DIV>
> > > <DIV>Don't worry be happy!! :-)</DIV>
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 08:12:14 -0500 (CDT)
> > > ------------------------------
> > > From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (Lisa)
> > > To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> > > Subject: Re: excision
> > > Message-ID: <200305271312.h4RDCEK05573@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > >
> > > Hi Holly,
> > > thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I wish you well with your
> > > excision while i trudge along with my lupron ;)
> > > Have a great day!
> > > LS
> > >
> > > At Mon, 26 May 2003, holly wrote:
> > > >
> > > >i feel your pain. literally. :) i had the same thing. lap to
> > > >cauterize, stuff returned and was worse. went on lupron, but only
> > > >lasted 3 months. had really bad problems with depression. and my
doc
> > > >is scheduling excision surgery. i don't know about docs in toronto,
> but
> > > >it is possible to find one who'll do excision. you could call the
erc
> > > >or the endo/assoc to find out if they have any docs to recommend or
if
> > > >they can put you contact with someone in toronto who could help.
also
> > > >call the hospitals in the area. a teaching hospital would be ideal
> > > >because they have tons of great docs there.
> > > >
> > > >i have some friends in toronto. i can ask them if they know of
anyone.
> > > >
> > > >hth
> > > >
> > > >At Mon, 26 May 2003, Lisa wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi,
> > > >>I was finally diagnosed with endo last year after a lap. My doctor
> > > >>"cleaned" it all up but a few months later I began experiencing the
> same
> > > >>issues (some worse) that I had prior to the surgery. I am now on my
> 4th
> > > >>month of lupron injections - wow, this is quite a experience :( . I
> am
> > > >>nervous of a re-occurance after the lupron. Does anyone know of a
> > > >>doctor in Toronto, Ontario - Canada that performs this "excision"
> > > >>proceedure I have seen mentioned in this forum?
> > > >>Any info would be appreciated.
> > > >>Thank you!
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 08:47:58 -0400
> > > ------------------------------
> > > From: "Michelle" <TeenDream@Hotmail.com>
> > > To: endo@obgyn.net
> > > Subject: I Need Your Cream In My Pie!
> > > Message-ID: <200305271331.h4RDVI926950@mail.medispecialty.com>
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:29:44 -0500
> > > ------------------------------
> > > From: "Jason" <JayAndCare@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <ENDO@OBGYN.NET>
> > > Subject: Hysterectomie or nupron
> > > Message-ID: <Law15-DAV14tVoMDrxx00000414@hotmail.com>
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> > > Hi I am 22 years old i have had surgery to get rid of my endo,
pollups,
> > > > and cyst last october. Now my doctor says my endo has come back. He
=
> > > wants me to go on nupron and i am scared of the side effects. I have
=
> > > been seriously thinking of just doing a hysterectomy cause i am just > > > tired and want to be better. I am still trying to make my desision.
=
> > > Please tell me what you think. Carrie
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> > > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi I am 22 years old i have had
surgery
> > > > to get rid
> > > of my endo, pollups, and cyst last october. Now my doctor says
my
> > > > endo has
> > > come back. He wants me to go on nupron and i am scared of the
side
> > > >
> > > effects. I have been seriously thinking of just doing a > > > hysterectomy cause
> > > i am just tired and want to be better. I am still trying to > > > make my
> > > desision. Please tell me what you think.
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> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:32:41 -0500 (CDT)
> > > ------------------------------
> > > From: ragarrett@bellsouth.net (rg)
> > > To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> > > Subject: Re: Hysterectomies and endo somethings to consider!!!!
> > > Message-ID: <200305271732.h4RHWfd30103@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > >
> > > Colette,
> > > I would mostly agree with you but as far as adhesions the biggest
> > > difference you see is in technique, specialists that are very skilled
> > > will tell you that although some have adhesions, good technique makes
a
> > > big difference in the end result. It's a tragedy that most gyn's
won't
> > > refer to endo specialists who have the experience and skill needed for
> > > endo and hundreds of women are needlessly promised results from the
> > > unskilled. The right doctor makes a huge difference, I am sorry you
> > > have had such an experience, I was spared from that but came very
close
> > > to making a bad decision now I have the best doctor.
> > > If you ever want a recommendation email me.
> > > At Mon, 26 May 2003, Colette wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I would explore all your options before having a hysterectomy be
> > > >absoutly sure that surgery is in your best interest. Please get
second
> > > >opions, DO NOT lrt a GYN doc talk you into surgery and make it look
> like
> > > >this is the answer to getting rid of your endo some may have success
> and
> > > >others will have problems for the rest of thier life either way!
> > > >The reason for me saying all this is because, I suffer from endo and
> > > >adhesions terribly this is my story! I had a TAH dec.1,2000 (because
my
> > > >gyn told me this was best and of course i believed him). Well
> > > >Oct17,2001 I had a laperascopy for an endometrioma cyst on my left
> > > >ovary, well the adhesions were so bad in there from my TAH that he
> could
> > > >not drain the cyst all the way left me and said sorry not much more i
> > > >can do for you your too much of a mess! Well a week later he called
me
> > > >back and told me Lupron would take care of it which i refused to do
> > > >because of all the side effects, but this doc. insisted so much he
> > > >called the makers of lupron to give me a discount i refused he no
> longer
> > > >was willing to help me! So i went on a hunt for another doctor and
> found
> > > >one! He decided to do a laperotomy open me back up to clean up the
mess
> > > >doc. #1 left which he did and removed both ovaries and tubes cut
down
> > > >adhesions ect.. Well its been 1 yr since my last surgery and again
I'm
> > > >having problems!
> > > >>From my body going through so much and the problems we woman have
with
> > > >endo i develope ADHESION every blessed time i'm opened up! I now
suffer
> > > >with pain bowel problems, FMS amongst tons of other things! One thing
> > > >doctors fail to tell us is about adhesions!
> > > >Adhesions-is scare tissue its a normal healing process! but for many
> > > >woman and men but from my research its mostly woman it develops and
> > > >cutting it dwn it keeps growing back its awful disease and painful!
> > > >Right now in the US there is no cure other than some adhesion
barriers
> > > >but not with much success unfortantly! So now here i sit once again
at
> > > >40 yrs old with many problems if not more! I do not regret my
decision
> > > >to have the hysterectomy but i do wish i got the facts first! I also
do
> > > >believe my endo is back. I'm on 2 mg of estrodial that is eat which
is
> > > >feeding the endo but at this point i'm at a stand still! I suffer
from
> > > >adhesions from all these surgeries! The only place where you can
> > > >actually get help is in Germany or australia they use Spraygel which
> > > >they are having great success there with that! And of course the US
has
> > > >to have it approved through the FDA!
> > > >I guess the moral of this story is to please talk to your doctor
gather
> > > >as much info as possible its your body and please do not allow a
doctor
> > > >tell you that this is the cure get second or thrid opions!
> > > >Research adhesions- I belong to a board its
> > called---http://www.bombobeach.com
> > > >these woman suffer terribly we as woman need to make the medical
> > > >community aware of ARD! any questions please check out this board too</
