ENDO Messages for April, 2003: Pain after Laparoscopy

Pain after Laparoscopy

From: Stephanie (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue Apr 29 22:17:39 2003

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This is my first time posting anything on this site. I am 27, was finally diagnosed with endo in 1999 and have had 4 laps since then. My last was Apr. 17th. I took a week off of work and went back to teach yesterday. I thought at first I was just recovering from the lap, but I have my same left side pain back again! How can this be??? When they did the lap, they found more endo, scar tissue, my ovaries were attached to different things by scar tissue, and my gall bladder was covered in scar tissue! The doctor told me that I will probably have to get that taken out. I just don't know what to do anymore. I have tried Lupron, BCPs, and lots of painkillers, but nothing seems to work. I was also diagnosed with fibromyalgia and a sleeping disorder. Any advice????

Stephanie

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Subject: ENDO digest 5467
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:39:22 -0500
>
> ENDO Digest 5467
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: hysterectomy questions????
> by "Amanda Falk" <afalk@illinoisalumni.org>
> 2) Re: pain after lap
> by ragarrett@bellsouth.net (rg)
> 3) question to all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)
> by "Becky Tellier" <beckster@dotnet.com>
> 4) Re: Consultants visit
> by faithclarinet@yahoo.com (Kayla)
> 5) Re: Has anyone had Dr. Barry Macmillian from London, Ontario as a
>urogyn??
> by amanda_aimee@hotmail.com (Amanda)
> 6) Re: specialists in Ottawa
> by amanda_aimee@hotmail.com (Amanda)
> 7) Re: Consultants visit
> by EXPARIMENT626@YAHOO.COM (SUNNY)
> 8) Re: Has anyone had Dr. Barry Macmillian from London, Ontario as a
>urogyn??
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Christina)
> 9) Re: question to all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> 10) Re: anti-deppresants
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> 11) Re: endro
> by "Carrie B." <c_mermaid@hotmail.com>
> 14) Re: specialists in Ottawa
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Trina)
> 15)
> by Michelle <turtletrax1@yahoo.com>
> 16) Re: Consultants visit
> by faithclarinet@yahoo.com (Kayla)
>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:38:39 -0400
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>From: "Amanda" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>To: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Subject: Re: hysterectomy questions????
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Mime-Version: 1.0
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>Katia,
>
>Read my story on the Endo quilt:
>
>http://www.obgyn.net/cfm/endo.cfm
>
>It is under Miss Amanda Marie Falk.
>
>Amanda
>
>after taking Lupron, provera, b/c pills, and two laps....honestly
>ladies, what is the next move? I'm 21 and not planning on having
>children now...and if i decided i wanted to later i have no problems
>with adopting. Anyway... with all this hysterectomy talk....i'm just
>wondering if that really is my last option. Anything to get my life
>back, ya know?
>any htoughts?
>
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>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:17:47 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (rg)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: pain after lap
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>No, especially if you used a regular gyn, they have little experience
>and usually b/c of this miss areas of endo, not to mention that most use
>ablation which leaves the roots, if I were you I would get a copy of
>your op report and consult an endo specialist in your area.
>
>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, chantel wrote:
> >
> >i just had a lap that removed endo five months ago and am beginning to
> >be symptomatic again. is it to soon for the endo to be recurring?
> >
> >thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> >chantel
>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:43:35 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>------------------------------
>From: "Becky" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>To: "anonymous@obgyn.net" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Subject: question to all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
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>I use Tampax tampons, either regular or slender regular in size. Anything
>larger causes pain. I hate pads ... they make me feel like I'm wearing a
>diaper and then I worry about odor. Never use panty liners, either, for t>he
>same reason.
>
>Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:43:38 -0500 (CDT)
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: question to all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>This might be a weird question to ask but hey I'll ask it anyways
>
>PLEASE ANSWER, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!
>
>If possible could anyone first answer if you use a maxi pad or tampon
>(when you have or had your period), and which brand?
>
>also... is there anyone who wears pantyliners all the time, or very
>often as a back up pad or for discharge (or whatever else)? If so please
>write how often and what brand.
>
>I am curious if this has an effect on us wonderful women who have endo
>
>thank you Deanna
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><DIV>I use Tampax tampons, either regular or slender regular in size. Any>thing larger causes pain. I hate pads ... they make me feel like I'm wear>ing a diaper and then I worry about odor. Never use panty liners, either,> for the same reason. </DIV>
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><DIV>Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:43:38 -0500 (CDT)<BR>From: <A title=mail>to:anonymous@obgyn.net href="mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net>">anonymous@obgyn.net</A><BR>To: <A title=mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net> href="mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net">anonymous@obgyn.net</A><BR>Subject: question t>o all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)<BR>Message-ID: <<>A title=mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net href==
>"mailto:200304290243.h3T2hcJ20745@mail.medispecialty.com">200304290243.h3>T2hcJ20745@mail.medispecialty.com</A>><BR><BR>This might be a weird qu>estion to ask but hey I'll ask it anyways<BR><BR>PLEASE ANSWER, IT WOULD >BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!<BR><BR>If possible could anyone first answer >if you use a maxi pad or tampon<BR>(when you have or had your period), an>d which brand?<BR><BR>also... is there anyone who wears pantyliners all t>he time, or very<BR>often as a back up pad or for discharge (or whatever >else)? If so please<BR>write how often and what brand.<BR><BR>I am curiou>s if this has an effect on us wonderful women who have endo<BR><BR>thank >you Deanna<BR></DIV></TD></TR>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:24:24 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Kayla)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Consultants visit
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Karine,
>
>I would agree about getting a second opinion. Look for gyn's in your
>area that specialize in endometriosis and/or pelvic pain. Currently the
>only way endometriosis can be diagnoised is through a
>laparoscopy....sticking a itty camera in a very small incision taking a
>peak inside. When you are looking for a specialist, look at their
>education and talk to other women friends that you have that are in the
>area about their experiences. You might also want to look for a
>reproductive endocrinologist....they deal w/ the hormones and fertility
>issues. I currently see one and he's excellent. If you are near
>Chicago,IL...email me off the list and I will give you his name and a
>couple others that I have heard that are really good, but weren't on my
>insurance plan.
>
>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Karine wrote:
> >
> >Hi I wonder if anyone could offer me some advice. I went to a Well
> >Woman clinic a few months back as I had really bad period pains (off
> >work every month vommiting, eating pain killers like sweeties! even
> >fainted last time)She said I potentially had endo. I was then sent to a
> >consultant, this took 2 months and in the interim I went on the pill.
> >This has reduced my pain to almost nothing (well compared to what it
> >was) as soon as the consultant heard my pain had receded that was as
> >good as the end of the consultation. He never asked me what my period
> >pains were like if I had any family history of endo or other gyno
> >problems (my mum aunt and grandmother all had fibroids which resulted in
> >hysterectomies) His tactic is that if your pain goes away on the pill
> >then everything is fine.
> >
> >I am consdering seeking a second opinion. Would anyone have any
> >thoughts on this, should I just accept what he says or should I
> >investigate further?
> >
> >Thanks
>
>--
>Kayla
>**Just someone who cares, preparing for the medical field**
>
>------------------------------
>
>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:43:01 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Amanda)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Has anyone had Dr. Barry Macmillian from London, Ontario as a
>urogyn??
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Hi Christina:
>Barry Macmillan diagnosed me with Endo in 2000 and I am about to have
>another surgery with him. In the fall I travelled by air to see him so
>that gives you an idea what he is like. He does take his time with you
>and he is empathic. He is happy with me doing my own research (internet
>and otherwise) and is supportive of whatever I decide I want to try. You
>will likely wait a long time to see him on a list and in the waiting
>room. My calls aren't always returned by the receptionist Nancy.
>However when I do talk to Nancy she is accomodating, friendly and
>helpful. I hope he can help you.
>Amanda
>
>At Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Christina wrote:
> >
> >Hi I had A hysterectomy last June due to a prolapsed uterus. I was
> >great for six weeks and than after my six week internal all my pain came
> >back. After bugging the gyn who did the hys to re-check me, he found
> >extensive scar tissue. After that I was great for two weeks and than
> >the pain came back again. When I went back, my gyn basically told me he
> >didn't know what to do with me and to not think about hte pain..in other
> >words he's trying to tell me it's in my head!! To make a long story
> >short my AWESOME family doctor recommended me to another gyn in which it
> >took five months to get into see him, and all he said was he felt so bad
> >for me as he knows i'm in pain but their is nothing he can do for me. he
> >told me to go to my family Doctor and have him send me to a bowel
> >specialist as that's where he feels the pain is coming from..thanks for
> >coming!! I was so upset and felt I was at the begining again and no one
> >would listen (other than my family doctor who thank god I have or I
> >probably would loose it by now!!) I went on the internet and thinking it
> >was a long shot began to e-mail urogynecologists my symptoms and story (
> >ladies on the UPRISe forum told me to go to one as they are more
> >qualified). I did get some replys and took them to my family doctor( he
> >was shocked they got back to me, and was very happy I was keeping on top
> >of things...most Dr.s do not like when you say you were reading up on
> >the internet)anyway it turns out he is going to refer me to a doctor
> >Barry MacMillian from London, Ontario. HAs anyone been to him? Is he
> >good? Are the staff nice? Did he take his time with you? Any info would
> >be great as I have to travel two hours to go see him, and I would love
> >as much info as possible so I am prepared. I'm sick of living in this
> >pain and having everyone turn me away. I'm 25 and I feel like I'm 90. I
> >want to enjoy my kids and husband, but being in this pain doesn't let me
> >do much.
> >Thanks for your time,
> >christina
>
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>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:45:30 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Amanda)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: specialists in Ottawa
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>I just moved away from Ottawa partially because I couldn't find an
>adequate specialist who was taking patients. I hope you have better
>luck.
>Amanda
>At Mon, 28 Apr 2003, anonymous wrote:
> >
> >Does anyone know any OB/GYN's that specialize in endo in Ottawa? Thanks
>
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>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:50:58 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (SUNNY)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Consultants visit
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Kayla,
>are you in IL? im in peoria seeing dr.carter and dr.bocintan(sp)
>please let me know
>Thank you and God Bless
> Sonni
>
>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Kayla wrote:
> >
> >Karine,
> >
> >I would agree about getting a second opinion. Look for gyn's in your
> >area that specialize in endometriosis and/or pelvic pain. Currently the
> >only way endometriosis can be diagnoised is through a
> >laparoscopy....sticking a itty camera in a very small incision taking a
> >peak inside. When you are looking for a specialist, look at their
> >education and talk to other women friends that you have that are in the
> >area about their experiences. You might also want to look for a
> >reproductive endocrinologist....they deal w/ the hormones and fertility
> >issues. I currently see one and he's excellent. If you are near
> >Chicago,IL...email me off the list and I will give you his name and a
> >couple others that I have heard that are really good, but weren't on my
> >insurance plan.
> >
> >At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Karine wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi I wonder if anyone could offer me some advice. I went to a Well
> >>Woman clinic a few months back as I had really bad period pains (off
> >>work every month vommiting, eating pain killers like sweeties! even
> >>fainted last time)She said I potentially had endo. I was then sent to a
> >>consultant, this took 2 months and in the interim I went on the pill.
> >>This has reduced my pain to almost nothing (well compared to what it
> >>was) as soon as the consultant heard my pain had receded that was as
> >>good as the end of the consultation. He never asked me what my period
> >>pains were like if I had any family history of endo or other gyno
> >>problems (my mum aunt and grandmother all had fibroids which resulted in
> >>hysterectomies) His tactic is that if your pain goes away on the pill
> >>then everything is fine.
> >>
> >>I am consdering seeking a second opinion. Would anyone have any
> >>thoughts on this, should I just accept what he says or should I
> >>investigate further?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >
> >--
> >Kayla
> >**Just someone who cares, preparing for the medical field**
> >
>
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>
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:58:23 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Christina)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Has anyone had Dr. Barry Macmillian from London, Ontario as a
>urogyn??
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Wow, he must be good!! Thank you for getting back to me. It's scary
>going to somone you don't know and who isn't from the area, so you can't
>find out what he is like. I found a site on the internet that tells you
>about doctors ( eg. where they studied, where they graduated, when, how
>old they are, etc) so that has helped, but it's always nicer talking to
>somone who has actually been to him. I'm so tired of getting poked and
>proded by doctors that I want someone who will listen and help me,
>hopefully it will be him. So he deals with endo too? I always felt I
>may possibly have it (that is why I asked to be seen by a gyn in the
>first place and was shocked when they said it was a prolapsed uterus. So
>maybe he can check for that)Is it like a hospital or a clinic? I hope I
>can get in soon. How long did you have to wait to see Dr. Macmillian?
>Thaks again so much for getting back to me
>Christina
>
>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Amanda wrote:
> >
> >Hi Christina:
> >Barry Macmillan diagnosed me with Endo in 2000 and I am about to have
> >another surgery with him. In the fall I travelled by air to see him so
> >that gives you an idea what he is like. He does take his time with you
> >and he is empathic. He is happy with me doing my own research (internet
> >and otherwise) and is supportive of whatever I decide I want to try. You
> >will likely wait a long time to see him on a list and in the waiting
> >room. My calls aren't always returned by the receptionist Nancy.
> >However when I do talk to Nancy she is accomodating, friendly and
> >helpful. I hope he can help you.
> >Amanda
> >
> >At Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Christina wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi I had A hysterectomy last June due to a prolapsed uterus. I was
> >>great for six weeks and than after my six week internal all my pain came
> >>back. After bugging the gyn who did the hys to re-check me, he found
> >>extensive scar tissue. After that I was great for two weeks and than
> >>the pain came back again. When I went back, my gyn basically told me he
> >>didn't know what to do with me and to not think about hte pain..in other
> >>words he's trying to tell me it's in my head!! To make a long story
> >>short my AWESOME family doctor recommended me to another gyn in which it
> >>took five months to get into see him, and all he said was he felt so bad
> >>for me as he knows i'm in pain but their is nothing he can do for me.
>he
> >>told me to go to my family Doctor and have him send me to a bowel
> >>specialist as that's where he feels the pain is coming from..thanks for
> >>coming!! I was so upset and felt I was at the begining again and no one
> >>would listen (other than my family doctor who thank god I have or I
> >>probably would loose it by now!!) I went on the internet and thinking it
> >>was a long shot began to e-mail urogynecologists my symptoms and story (
> >>ladies on the UPRISe forum told me to go to one as they are more
> >>qualified). I did get some replys and took them to my family doctor( he
> >>was shocked they got back to me, and was very happy I was keeping on top
> >>of things...most Dr.s do not like when you say you were reading up on
> >>the internet)anyway it turns out he is going to refer me to a doctor
> >>Barry MacMillian from London, Ontario. HAs anyone been to him? Is he
> >>good? Are the staff nice? Did he take his time with you? Any info would
> >>be great as I have to travel two hours to go see him, and I would love
> >>as much info as possible so I am prepared. I'm sick of living in this
> >>pain and having everyone turn me away. I'm 25 and I feel like I'm 90.
>I
> >>want to enjoy my kids and husband, but being in this pain doesn't let me
> >>do much.
> >>Thanks for your time,
> >>christina
>
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>
>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:55:49 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: question to all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>I use Tampax tampons in the Slender Regular size. I used to use Tampax
>100% cotton tampons until they quit making them. If they haven't quit
>making them, then I can't find them anymore. I use Always pads while
>sleeping when my flow is lighter and doesn't require a tampon. I also
>use panty liners during the times when I'm spotting.
>
> >
> >Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:43:38 -0500 (CDT)
> >From: anonymous@medispecialty.com
> >To: ENDO@OBGYN.NET
> >Subject: question to all females who have endo (YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED)
> >Message-ID: <200304290243.h3T2hcJ20745@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >
> >This might be a weird question to ask but hey I'll ask it anyways
> >
> >--
> >
> >PLEASE ANSWER, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!
> >
> >If possible could anyone first answer if you use a maxi pad or tampon
> >(when you have or had your period), and which brand?
> >
> >also... is there anyone who wears pantyliners all the time, or very
> >often as a back up pad or for discharge (or whatever else)? If so please
> >write how often and what brand.
> >
> >I am curious if this has an effect on us wonderful women who have endo
> >
> >thank you Deanna
> >
>
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>
>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:00:44 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: anti-deppresants
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>At Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Toni wrote:
> >
> >At Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Holly wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi Carmen,
> >>
> >>I say go for it; talk to the associate doctor. Maybe you already did;
> >>it's late in the day. Anyway, if you think you need them then they
>should
> >>prescribe it or send you to a psychiatrist to evaluate your need. I've
> >>been having similar problems in the last week. I'm already on a low
>dose
> >>of elavil for pain and have been thinking about having the dosage raised
> >>for depression. I've been avoiding the telephone and unable to get up
>to
> >>do anything. My husband has been patient, but something has to change
> >>soon. Hope your doctor is better to you this time. You can always
> >>suggest that he refer you to a psychiatrist for evaluation. I know
>that's
> >>another doctor visit, but I'm sure the psychiatrist would be better at
> >>teasing apart your emotional needs and more inclined to help you.
>That's
> >>ridiculous what your doctor told you last week.
> >>here's to getting rid of depression ;)
> >>
> >>Holly
> >>
> >>On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Carmen Ouellette wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey there everyone,
> >>> I'm in need of a bit of advice today! The hormones in the Danazol are
>really
> >>> screwing up my mind lately.
> >>> I mentioned last week how I went to my family doctor to ask about a
> >>> anti-depressant, and he told me that I have 'healthy depression', and
>that I
> >>> don't need them. I'm just supposed to think happy thoughts!
> >>> (why didn't I think of that!!! what a twit.)
> >>>
> >>> Okay, so this isn't really going over well at all with me! I'm to the
>point
> >>> now where I really think I NEED them!
> >>> My doctor isn't in his office today, but an associate is, that I've
>never
> >>> seen.
> >>>
> >>> So should I be worried about seeing a different doctor? My file is
>there, I
> >>> just feel weird about it 'cause the last time I saw him he knew I was
>angry
> >>> with him.
> >>> Does this make any sense?
> >>> I don't think I could wait another day. I just want this nonsense in
>my
> >>> head to stop! So does my husband! My moods are really starting to take
>a
> >>> toll on my marriage.
> >>> Thanks for any answers you may have!
> >>> love
> >>> Carmen :)
>
>Carmen, I have a story to tell re Pamelor combined with HRT. Be very
>careful!!!!!!! Pamelor and HRT combination has caused me 10 years of
>breast pain......there is a "little description" in the Pamelor pamplet
>that "combined with estrogen can can breast enlargement" which happened
>to me ... long story short...I've suffered SEVERE breast pain....caused
>by enlarged breast glands and have searched all over the USA for relief.
>I'd NOT recommend antidepressant combined with HRT especially
>Pamelor!!!!!! I'd like to ask ANYONE who has had a similar problem to
>correspond with me. Thanks.
> >>>
> >Hi Holly,
> >
> >I have been tried on elavil and pamelor for pain, and like you said it
> >should help the depression this pain puts us in, last night I was in ER
> >no bowel movement in 5 days, they say the elavil and now the pamelor
> >causes costipation. After all the adhesions were lysed off the bowels
> >and abdominal wall the bowel is making thing worse right now til I get
> >it moving! They kept telling me the narcotic will cause constipation,
> >but I am having more trouble with the anti depressants. Is the elavil
> >helping you? How many mgs a day? I need to find one of them to help me!
> >
> >Thank you hope you are feeling better! Let me know!
> >
> >Toni
>Toni, I have a story to tell re Pamelor combined with HRT. Be very
>careful!!!!!!! Pamelor and HRT combination has caused me 10 years of
>breast pain......there is a "little description" in the Pamelor pamplet
>that "combined with estrogen can can breast enlargement" which happened
>to me ... long story short...I've suffered SEVERE breast pain....caused
>by enlarged breast glands and have searched all over the USA for relief.
>I'd NOT recommend antidepressant combined with HRT especially
>Pamelor!!!!!! I'd like to ask ANYONE who has had a similar problem to
>correspond with me. Thanks.
> >>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:44:24 -0400
>------------------------------
>From: "Carrie" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: endro
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>Mime-Version: 1.0
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><html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
><P>I completely agree with you on that!  Good luck on your
>surgery!<BR><BR></P></DIV>
><DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>
><DIV></DIV>Carrie
><DIV></DIV>
><P>
><P></P>>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous@obgyn.net)
><BR>>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net <BR>>To: Multiple recipients of list
>ENDO <ENDO@MAIL.MEDISPECIALTY.COM><BR>>Subject: Re: endro <BR>>Date:
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>knowledgeable with endo, <BR>>therefore it was a failed surgery. I was
>determined not to <BR>>have surgery with just any Obgyn again. I waited,
>saved, and now having <BR>>surgery with one of the best. I finally have
>full confidence in my <BR>>doctor, and his surgical techniques. I firmly
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>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:24:11 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Trina)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: specialists in Ottawa
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>I'm seeing a RE at Ottawa Civic Fertility Centre..Her name is Dr.
>Kotarba.
>She is very nice!
>
>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Amanda wrote:
> >
> >I just moved away from Ottawa partially because I couldn't find an
> >adequate specialist who was taking patients. I hope you have better
> >luck.
> >Amanda
> >At Mon, 28 Apr 2003, anonymous wrote:
> >>
> >>Does anyone know any OB/GYN's that specialize in endo in Ottawa? Thanks
>
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>
>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 18:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
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>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:37:07 -0500 (CDT)
>------------------------------
>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Kayla)
>To: anonymous@obgyn.net
>Subject: Re: Consultants visit
>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>
>Sonni,
>
>I see Dr. Madgy Milad in Chicago at Northwestern and the other really
>good guy is Dr. Charles Miller in Naperville. Miller is closer to me
>but he isn't on my insurance plan so I had to go to Milad. Neither of
>them are really close to Peoria....sorry.
>
>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, SUNNY wrote:
> >
> >Kayla,
> >are you in IL? im in peoria seeing dr.carter and dr.bocintan(sp)
> >please let me know
> >Thank you and God Bless
> > Sonni
> >
> >At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Kayla wrote:
> >>
> >>Karine,
> >>
> >>I would agree about getting a second opinion. Look for gyn's in your
> >>area that specialize in endometriosis and/or pelvic pain. Currently the
> >>only way endometriosis can be diagnoised is through a
> >>laparoscopy....sticking a itty camera in a very small incision taking a
> >>peak inside. When you are looking for a specialist, look at their
> >>education and talk to other women friends that you have that are in the
> >>area about their experiences. You might also want to look for a
> >>reproductive endocrinologist....they deal w/ the hormones and fertility
> >>issues. I currently see one and he's excellent. If you are near
> >>Chicago,IL...email me off the list and I will give you his name and a
> >>couple others that I have heard that are really good, but weren't on my
> >>insurance plan.
> >>
> >>At Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Karine wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi I wonder if anyone could offer me some advice. I went to a Well
> >>>Woman clinic a few months back as I had really bad period pains (off
> >>>work every month vommiting, eating pain killers like sweeties! even
> >>>fainted last time)She said I potentially had endo. I was then sent to
>a
> >>>consultant, this took 2 months and in the interim I went on the pill.
> >>>This has reduced my pain to almost nothing (well compared to what it
> >>>was) as soon as the consultant heard my pain had receded that was as
> >>>good as the end of the consultation. He never asked me what my period
> >>>pains were like if I had any family history of endo or other gyno
> >>>problems (my mum aunt and grandmother all had fibroids which resulted
>in
> >>>hysterectomies) His tactic is that if your pain goes away on the pill
> >>>then everything is fine.
> >>>
> >>>I am consdering seeking a second opinion. Would anyone have any
> >>>thoughts on this, should I just accept what he says or should I
> >>>investigate further?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>
> >>--
> >>Kayla
> >>**Just someone who cares, preparing for the medical field**
> >>
>
>--
>Kayla
>**Just someone who cares, preparing for the medical field**
>
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>
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>End of ENDO Digest 5467
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