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Michele
Please see below-
At Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Mindy wrote:
>
>Dr. R in Bend Oregon requires 75% up front and you can make payments on
>the rest. They will bill your insurance company as a courtesy and will
>refund you the money or apply it to your balance. So yes,they do work
>with your insurance. I got a portion back from my insurance company.
(I was told some of this when I called. Unfortunately I cannot afford
this for awhile because I have so many medical bills).
>
>And no, many people have numerous laps b-cuz they either have very
>aggressive endo or the surgery was not done correctly...meaning ALl of
>the endo was not removed.
(Yes what you stated above is true but there are doctors out there who
will do multiple laps because they are money hungry. I did not type,
say or imply that Dr. R is one of them, sorry that you took this the
wrong way).
>
>I had my surgery 1.5 years ago with Dr. R and I have not had any endo
>related problems, and most importantly no pain related to endo! My
>periods are a piece of cake :-)
(I am happy for you! :-)).
>
>I think your opinion was unfair. It was not your experience based on
>FACT, just your opinion.
(My opinion is about SOME doctors not Dr. R! By what I was told by my
doc has seen when he does surgery on some of his patients I believe it
to be fact that there are doctors out there that will do surgery after
surgery on the same patient; lazoring the endo. Over and over this same
patient returns after time because the endo has grown back and this endo
specialist takes her back into surgery to again remove the re-grown
endo. I know this also to be true because it happended to one of my
friends before I was diagnosed and knew that I also had endo or knew
anything about this horrible disease).
>
>I like how you said your doc is controlling the disease with Lupron. I
>am glad you acknowledged that Lupron will not cure (nothing really does)
>nor is it a long term solution for most people. As soon as I stopped
>the drug, the pain came back. Read the archives, you will see that is
>the case for most people.
(Yes my doc is only attempting to control the disease and I do know that
there is no cure. I also know that the Lupron only controls it for a
very short time. Everytime I go off it the PAIN is back immediately and
can you believe that my doc is an endo specialist)?!?
>
>Dr. R is not a money hungry doc....he could have been an obgyn making
>tons of money, but he decided to dedicate his career to helping people
>like us. I think his charge is not unreasonable.
(I never said specifically that Dr. R is this way... my goodness. I
do not know exact amount that he charges so I will not comment on that).
Now hospital charges
>are unreasonable, but his charge is not. And please do not refer to
>Doc's like him as docs preying on us....that is just wrong. There are
>doc's out there who are not legitimate, but do your research and talk to
>others who have seen the doc you are considering. That is what I did
>and it took me 4 months to choose Dr. R....NO REGRETS!
(And this is what I am attempting to do here and now).
>
>Maybe you should consider seeing him. I know in my heart that he is the
>best option for us. And please base your opinions on your experiences,
>not what you believe to be true.
(I might consider seeing him if I had the money up front, not all people
do. I need to try to conceive as soon as I get the horrific pain under
control and my time is running out... I am 36. I am not sure how long
it would take me to save to have surgery with Dr. R. Not everyone is
financially secure maybe like you are?!? My opinion is THAT SOME DOCTORS
ARE MONEY HUNGRY- not all... simply said.
P.S. The statement I made re: the fact that surgery can cause painful
adhesions is fact. It is possible that I am one of those victims since
nothing is helping the back pain that I am experiencing. Endometriosis
also can case adhesions. Adhesions can be very painful. Lupron of
course has no effect on them. As mentioned before surgey creates a
vicious cycle of adhesions and surgery. Some of these victims remain on
pain meds as the only source of relief. Please see below:
Go to: http://www.adhesions.org/index.htm
>>At Wed, 25 Sep 2002, anonymous wrote:
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>>Hi- I talked w/ the Doc's office in Bend, OR approx. 6 months ago. A
>>woman from an endo support group recommended him. The problem. he
>>wants money up-front and will not deal w/ your ins. co.
>>My current endo specialist does not agree w/ excision (SP)! surgery
>>because both surgery involving cutterage, lazor and endo can cause
>>adhesions to which can pain for the rest of your life. It also can
>>cause a vicious circle of adhesions / endo - pain and multiple
>>surgeries. That is why you hear of so many women having SO MANY LAPS!
>>Women like most of us who have endo are so desparate to have close to a
>>normal pain-free life that we will do almost anything. I think doctors
>>more than know this and we become their prey. Watch for greedy money
>>hungry doctors. My doc is trying the surgery and is doing his best to
>>control the disease w/ Lupron.
>>However; since I have only had 1 lap to diagnose endo. I am curious why
>>my doc is being that careful and avoiding the surgery. I know he feels
>>that the surgery could cause more damage but 10 months of Lupron hasnt
>>done much. I need to get some relief somehow and get off the drugs so
>>that I can attempt to conceive.
>>This is why I seek a second opinion. Anyone know of a good doc besides
>>Dr. R in or near WA state???
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