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Re: Stephanie - Weight Gain = estro dominance?!
From: PAR (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue Jan 23 22:36:39 2001
At Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Yen wrote:
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>Hi Stephanie,
>Stephanie, what you said is interesting but I'm not sure whether I
>understood you correctly. From what I've read in the past and from
>answers received from other drs, I was under the impression that it was
>progesterone that causes the weight gain. Are you telling me its the
>estrogen that is causing the weight gain? Then do women who have
>endometriosis gain weight due to our excess estrogen?!?! I've been
>trying to figure this out because ever since I've had these
>endometriosis problems, I've acquired this fattiness and weight gain of
>at least 10 lbs which I absolutely cannot get rid of!!! The treadmill,
>dieting, nothing works!
>I'm still on the continuous bc pill but the weight problems started
>before going continuously on the bc pill.
>Yen, Tx
Most definetly, estrogen does cause weight gain, but not for all woman.
I know some who are on estrogen and have not gained a pound. I believe
this is due to a health endrocrine system. (but, who knows for sure) I
know I have gained weight in the past on birth control pills and am now
gaining a few pounds on even natural estrogen "Tri-Est" which I take
once every 3rd day, rather than every day. And most, but not all, meats
are given steroids. They are used to increase the growth ob both muscle
and fat, increasing the market value of each animal. They also make the
animals grow faster, so the farmer can take them to market fat more
quickly. This is found in more detail in a report under this site:
http://www.life.ca/nl/68/dioxin.html These hormones used in meats have been
"outlawed" in Europe since 1988. So even the meat we eat, we are
ingesting even more estrogen and causing more weight gain. A most
excellant book to get is "The Estrogen Alternative" by Rachal Martin.
>At Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Stephanie wrote:
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>>Hey Colleen,
>>
>>Sorry to hear of your returned pain...yes, it could be endo or
>>adhesions...either way it hurts, huh! :-(
>>
>>I had surgery recently, but not a hyst, so I can't comment on that...but
>>I would like to comment on the estrogen therapy. My hormones have been
>>majorly messed up, so I have studied this alot recently. It is
>>absolutely inappropriate and totally common for doctors to give women
>>unopposed estrogen after a complete hyst...they feel that "you don't
>>have a uterus, so why would you need progesterone?" Do you still have
>>skin...a heart...bones? Progesterone works on all those things as well!
>>
>>Progesterone is one of the things that can HELP our endo...when the body
>>is estrogen dominant (which you probably are due to the weight
>>gain...that's a sure sign) the endo can really grow.
>>
>>It is also much more effective to take natural hormones...the ones that
>>are identical to what your body makes. The synthetic ones that the drug
>>companies make are "similar" but not identical to what the body
>>makes...otherwise, they couldn't patent it!! The body reacts much more
>>positively to natural hormones.
>>
>>Another thing I would warn you about is...my sister had a complete hyst
>>15 months ago...they put her on Premarin...while she was here taking
>>care of me after my surgery, we had her hormones tested (due to all the
>>side effects from her hyst..to name a few: 20 pound weight gain, severe
>>insomnia, irritability, dry skin...). Depending on where you are in
>>your cycle, a women's estrogen can be anywhere from 60-437...hers was
>>865!! This doctor put her on a hormone...listened to her complaints (all
>>of which are due to estrogen dominance)...and left her on the same
>>amount without ever testing her!! It's a crime the misery she has been
>>in for the last year...and the doctors act like she's a hypochondriac or
>>something!
>>
>>Sorry to go on for so long...there's a book with tons of good
>>information for any woman no matter her age called "What Your Doctor May
>>Not Tell You About Premenopause...Balance your hormones and your life
>>from 30-50" by Dr John Lee...I strongly recommend it as part of the
>>education we must do to make sure we get the best care!
>>
>>Love and Health,
>>Stephanie
>>
>>At Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Colleen wrote:
>>>
>>>I had a complete hyster in March with endo on back of uterus in culdesac
>>>and ligaments and also had adenomyosis. I had everything removed
>>>abdominally. My main pain before surgery was severe cramps and pain
>>>that woke me up every night across lower back then coming around to my
>>>stomach. Since surgery my pain in the night has been gone for months
>>>until about a month or so ago. I am so fearful the endo is back or
>>>maybe it is from adhesions. I have very close to the same pain I had
>>>before. I haven't even told my husband because he keeps talking about
>>>how glad he is I'm so much better and a new woman. I don't even want to
>>>face this and think about it. I have gained about 10 lbs. since
>>>starting on estrogen therapy and thought maybe the back pain was from
>>>that. I waited almost 2 months after surgery to start on ert.in hopes
>>>that any endo would die off and my dr. felt confident. Someone I heard
>>>said that they had back pain for awhile after surgery from all the
>>>trauma done from exploring for endo and moving things around during
>>>surgery. Any thoughts on this or similar experiences would be
>>>appreciated.
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