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Re: New To The Forum-JAN

From: Janice (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat Jan 15 12:13:53 2000

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Hi Jan

It seems misunderstanding are all over the place here :)....I dont have any children of my own as yet although I am pregnant with my first (6 weeks)...My experiences come directly from having a mom who was sick and a useless father which meant a lot of chores fell on us kids....All I was trying to point out was for people to get adults more involved than children because from all i remember I missed out on a lot of things...Im sure my mom didnt mean it to happen ..just the way it goes....Maybe I didnt express myself properly the first time....sometimes its hard on a computer to express what u mean in the correct way.

Janice

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> From: JANET <mattjan@iserv.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@forum.obgyn.net>
> Subject: Re: New To The Forum-JAN
> Date: 15 January 2000 14:51
>
> Janice,
>     I'm sorry i took it that way, but it was attached to one of my
messages,
> in a response to something.. I know were all entitled to opinions, i
never
> said we were'nt, that's what this place is for.. It just hurt my
feelings,
> that someone would even say something like that in response to something
i'd
> said.. I don't expect more from my kids, i expect them to do normal
things
> that anybody else would expect. And i'm the one who does everything
around
> here, so i don't even put enough on to them.. I have to beg the mto do
what
> little i ask the mto do, liek clean their room, or pick up after
themselves
> at hte dinner table, instead of starting an argument, i just do it
insteasd
> of them.. How many kids do you have? How old?(if any)    Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janice <janicehanlon@eircom.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@forum.obgyn.net>
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: New To The Forum-JAN
>
> >Jan
> >
> >I did not use the word slaves.....and I did state at the start of MY
post
> >that I was not trying to start an argument....I stated my opinion at the
> >time and was not getting at you or anyone else....I am entitled to how I
> >feel about things as you and everyone else on this list are....I dont
have
> >a problem with children doing normal household chores...I was just
pointing
> >out that sometimes people when they are ill expect kids to do more than
the
> >norm....and thats not fair...again this was NOT made with a direct
> >reference to you and Im sorry that you took it that way....I also wanted
to
> >point out the the person who was receiving the advice that it was the
> >adults she should try to involve.
> >
> >Janice
> >
> >----------
> >> From: JANET <mattjan@iserv.net>
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@forum.obgyn.net>
> >> Subject: Re: New To The Forum
> >> Date: 12 January 2000 22:47
> >>
> >> Janice,
> >>     Hello. Nobody said anything about kids being slaves. But they can
be
> >> responsible and clean up after themselves, like their room and the
messes
> >> they make, and if they want to take on a chore like vaccumming their
room
> >or
> >> the living room, then why not? Myu kids don't do anything around the
> >house
> >> unless i beg them to even clean their room. So please dont say i'm
asking
> >my
> >> children to be slaves. I cant beleive someone even wrote something
like
> >> that. And as for school, my kids are way ahead of themselves in
reading
> >and
> >> other things. They're in reading levels that are 1-2 grades above
their
> >own.
> >> And they're always with their friends. I have to get my kids to go out
to
> >> play with their friends sometimes, because they like being in with me
and
> >> the baby, spending time, and helping me with him..    Jan
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gwenn <gwennji@yahoo.com>
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@forum.obgyn.net>
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 4:57 PM
> >> Subject: Re: New To The Forum
> >>
> >> >I agree completely with you Janice. I think that kids should have
some
> >> >responsibility, but they should also be allowed to have kid time.
They
> >> >should have to like clean their rooms, and pick up after themselves,
> >> >and maybe a chore or two otehr than that, but simple, and based on
> >> >their age. I don't think they are there to be slaves.
> >> >Gwenn
> >> >
> >> >--- Janice Hanlon <anonymous@obgyn.net> wrote:
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>
> >> >> I felt I had to comment on this...Im not trying to start an
argument
> >> >> or
> >> >> anything, but having grown up with a disabled mom and therefore
> >> >> having to
> >> >> do a lot of housework at a young age among a lot of other
things...I
> >> >> would
> >> >> beg anyone ,....to try not to put a load on children...they are
> >> >> children
> >> >> for a reason...and sometimes a heavy load means they miss out on
> >> >> things
> >> >> with their friends etc...not to mention school etc...I think the
best
> >> >> course of action to take is to educate the other adults around you
in
> >> >> the
> >> >> hope that they may be more sympathetic and helpful :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Janice
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------
> >> >> > From: JANET <mattjan@iserv.net>
> >> >> > To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@forum.obgyn.net>
> >> >> > Subject: Re: New To The Forum
> >> >> > Date: 11 January 2000 21:27
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kathie,
> >> >> >     Hello and welcome.. It sounds familiar.. I'm bleeding right
now
> >> >> too,
> >> >> and
> >> >> > its hell on earth.. I do want to say something though, without
you
> >> >> getting
> >> >> > upset,or annoyed.. Why cant your boys help out? I have 4 kids and
> >> >> my 2
> >> >> > oldest, which are almost 9, and 7 1/2, help me alot.. They help
> >> >> around
> >> >> the
> >> >> > house if i need and they ccan get hteir own food, if need be..
Your
> >> >> children
> >> >> > can learn to be a little more independent.. They're old enough..
As
> >> >> for
> >> >> your
> >> >> > hubby sleeping all day, he could pitch in a little before he goes
> >> >> in to
> >> >> > work.. I'm not trying to get on anyones case,but your not someone
> >> >> to
> >> >> walked
> >> >> > all over.. As for the family members, maybe you could print up
some
> >> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> > mail here, or have some of them read excerpts out of some of the
> >> >> endo
> >> >> > books.. I hope none of this gets you upset at me.. I hope you
feel
> >> >> better...
> >> >> > I'm on a constant flow of narcotic pain meds, so i also know what
> >> >> thats
> >> >> > like...    Janginal Message-----
> >> >> > From: CATSEYZ29@aol.com <CATSEYZ29@aol.com>
> >> >> > To: Multiple recipients of list ENDO <endo@forum.obgyn.net>
> >> >> > Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:24 PM
> >> >> > Subject: New To The Forum
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >Hi
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I have been reading the posts here and have replied to a few but
> >> >> never
> >> >> > >introduced myself.  My name is Kathie , I am 29 and was
diagnosed
> >> >> in
> >> >> > October
> >> >> > >with stage 4 endo after a diagnostic laporoscopy.  I had an
> >> >> endometrial
> >> >> > >tumor, pelvic adhesions and scar tissue that were binding my
> >> >> organs
> >> >> > together.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Before my surgery, I had sharp excruciating pain that did not
last
> >> >> very
> >> >> > long.
> >> >> > > Now I have dull stabbing pain constantly, I always feel as if I
> >> >> am in
> >> >> > labor.
> >> >> > > I am on my first round of continuous birth control pills,  and
> >> >> have to
> >> >> > take
> >> >> > >percocet for the pain, sometimes it is real bad.  I have 2 boys
> >> >> ages 7
> >> >> and
> >> >> > 9
> >> >> > >and have to be on my toes with them.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I am glad that I found this place, because I do not get the
> >> >> support from
> >> >> my
> >> >> > >family members.  They think because what I have is not fatal,
that
> >> >> it
> >> >> cant
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > >all that bad.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I hope for pain free days soon
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Kathie
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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